stephan huller

http://www.scribd.com/doc/145613634/JTS-85-Clement

The first article by Eric Osborn noted expert on Clement of Alexandria on the subject of the claimed sighting of Clement's Hypotyposeis at St Macarius's monastery in 1779.

Roger Pearse

What an interesting story, and thank you, Stephan, for drawing our attention to it.

I don't believe for 30 seconds in the sincerity of the discovery, tho. A Polybius, a "complete" Diodorus Siculus, a Pausanias ... balderdash! Coptic monasteries do not contain such treasures as these, of interest to modern westerners interested in the classics, but not to oriental monks. The latter want theology and patristics.

We have been here before, and these kinds of frauds have a certain smell to them. From the 15th century onwards western travellers sought to locate books in eastern monasteries. Those arranging such travels, dragomans and the like, were often Greeks. Curiously, there are extant remarkable lists of books to be found in odd places in the east! Just the thing to get a rich westerner to commission an expedition? Not there? Maybe they have been moved somewhere else. More camels, sir? Certainly.

I would have believed it, had the traveller been less extravagant. If he had not mentioned the three classical texts, and merely referred to an ms. of the hypotyposeis, then perhaps. Note, tho, how he fails to mention what language the texts are in! Sinai had Greek monks, and so Greek texts. But S. Macarius? No sir.

Very interesting, to compare with Morton Smith and the Mar Saba 'find'.

I would imagine that D'Antraigues came home, faked his notes, tried the story out on a nearby scholar and was laughed down for his pains. What he probably intended was forgery for money.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

stephan huller

I have contacted ALL the Coptologists in the world on this

stephan huller

Will share

stephan huller

Osborn never mentions the Mar Saba find but apparently was favorably disposed toward this story

stephan huller

I have my problems with this story but accept Smith's innocence

Roger Pearse

Um, that is probably overkill, you know? You don't want to get a reputation as a crank.

Roger Pearse

I know of three fake book lists:

http://www.tertullian.org/articles/z...enaeus_eng.htm

http://www.tertullian.org/articles/m...enaeus_eng.htm

The third is not online but is the catalogue of Rodosto, which supposedly contained Eusebius against Porphyry. My note on it is here:

http://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2...sto-raidestos/

You can only see these sorts of claims a few times before becoming cynical.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

stephan huller

no seriously. 200 emails, 150 responses. Remember I am a "colleague" because I published an article in the Journal of Coptic studies

stephan huller

Alin thinks I should write anothet article. I think Emmel might help me publish it. I think the claim of D'Antraigues is BS