Toto

The complete quote: "Few dispute the fact that the Jews sometimes reckoned part of a civil day as a whole day for counting purposes--but not just any part of a civil day for a day AND a night. "

rstrats

Toto,

re: "The complete quote: "Few dispute the fact that the Jews sometimes reckoned part of a civil day as a whole day for counting purposes--but not just any part of a civil day for a day AND a night."

Sorry, I must have been confused at the time with regard to what he was saying.

John Kesler

Matthew 12:40 is the only place which speaks of Jesus' entombment lasting "three days and three nights." Other NT references, even in Matthew, use less specific language:


*Matthew 17:23 ..."on the third day he will be raised"
*Matthew 20:19..."on the third day he will be raised"
*Matthew 26:61..."destroy the temple of God and to build it in three days" (see also Matthew 27:40)
*Matthew 27:64..."Therefore command the tomb to be made secure until the third day"

In Matthew 12:40, Matthew, per his usual practice, has tried to connect Jesus with an OT "prophecy," and the mention of Jonah in the original saying (preserved in Luke's version) proved too tempting for Matthew not to make the resurrection another "sign." That Friday-Sunday morning doesn't equal 72 hours was of no consequence to him. For that matter, unless one can prove that exactly 72 hours elapsed from Jonah 1:17 to 2:10, the basis of comparison was an "error" to begin with.

rstrats

John Kesler,

Do you know of any writing that is asked for in the OP?

John Kesler

Two OT passages are pertinent:

rstrats

John Kesler,

I don't see where your 2 references show a period of time which absolutely couldn't have included at least a part of each one of the specific number of days and at least a part of each one of the specific number of nights.

rstrats

Perhaps someone new looking in who thinks that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week, and who tries to get around Matthew 12:40 by saying that it is using common Jewish idiomatic language will know of some writing.

steve_bnk

How about a 'New York Minute'?


http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...0york%20minute

'...June 20, 2005 Urban Word of the Day
A New York minute is an instant. Or as Johnny Carson once said, it's the interval between a Manhattan traffic light turning green and the guy behind you honking his horn.

It appears to have originated in Texas around 1967. It is a reference to the frenzied and hectic pace of New Yorkers' lives. A New Yorker does in an instant what a Texan would take a minute to do.

I'll have that ready for you in a New York Minute..'

Someone in the past posted that 40 in the Jewish bible colloquially meant 'a while'. It rained for 40 days, JC fasted for 40 days and so on.

http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/m...-bible/40.html

Without a Rosetta Stone for the colloquial culture of times the nuances are impossible to deduce.

I read that Julius Caesar would have used Latin for formal sityuatioins, at home he would have spoken a hodgepodge dialect.

rstrats

steve bnk,

Do you know of any writing as requested in the OP?

steve_bnk

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Have you tried searching on various key phrases? If a description exists I expect you will find it on a Jewish web site somewhere.

My point was if there is any repeated references using an expression it is probably colloquial.