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Grog · 06-28-2013, 01:59 PM

We can start by posting complaints here:

http://en.forums.wordpress.com/

Roger Pearse · 06-28-2013, 02:12 PM

Done.

stephan huller · 06-28-2013, 02:39 PM

I'm too stupid for this. How is it done?

Adam · 06-28-2013, 02:46 PM

The topic on shutting down Vridar has been closed--probably meaning wordpress has gotten the message that they need to play fair with Neil. I saw earlier entries by Grog, Roger Pearse, and Hjalti favorable to Vridar.
And that may be why it seems so difficult to get on the thread. As a member I could see more, I think.

Roger Pearse · 06-28-2013, 02:57 PM

No, the thread is closed. The last two posts were a Wordpress representative being gratuitously rude.

Worth remembering, the next time Wordpress play the touchy-feely tune.

Edit: or possibly just a random user being rude. Just seen another example of the same trolls mouthing off and being unhelpful, and reported it to the mods.

Grog · 06-28-2013, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephan huller

I'm too stupid for this. How is it done?

I created an account. Then I think it is like any other forum.

Grog · 06-28-2013, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Pearse

No, the thread is closed. The last two posts were a Wordpress representative being gratuitously rude.

Worth remembering, the next time Wordpress play the touchy-feely tune.

Edit: or possibly just a random user being rude. Just seen another example of the same trolls mouthing off and being unhelpful, and reported it to the mods.

Thanks, Roger, your comments, as always are thorough, fair, and well-reasoned. I did a new post, by the way.

stephan huller · 06-28-2013, 04:25 PM

Just got this

We're alive again. Here's the new address: http://vridar.org

Pardon the disarray. Moving to the new host was not so easy

Grog · 06-28-2013, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephan huller

Just got this

We're alive again. Here's the new address: http://vridar.org

Pardon the disarray. Moving to the new host was not so easy

Joel Watts might be liable for making false copyright infringement claims. If Neil's posts did not confuse the issue of authorship and was for the purposes of critiquing the views proffered, then it is pretty much on the liberal side. Falsely claiming infringement is actionable against. Since this is costing money, it can be monetarily actionable.

https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/IP

http://www.chillingeffects.org/fanfi...cgi?NoticeID=7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyrig...iary_liability

Grog · 06-28-2013, 04:57 PM

This probably belongs in a different forum, but it mostly is of interest to readers of this one.

First, if Joel Watts did not send Neil a warning, then Wordpress violated its ToS by taking down Vridar, unless Joel made false claims. Here is the pertinent policy statement on automattic:

Quote:

Originally Posted by automattic

Please follow these steps to file a notice:

"Verify that the blog in question is hosted by Automattic. We have no control over blogs that say “Powered by WordPress.org.” Those blogs use the open source WordPress software and are not hosted by us. Please contact the appropriate web host with complaints. We only host blogs that have “wordpress.com” in their URL or that say “powered by WordPress.com” on the site.

Contact the blogger directly. Go to the blog post in question and leave a comment with your complaint to see if the matter can be resolved directly between you and the blogger.

Send your complaint to our designated agent. If the issue cannot be resolved directly with the blogger, send your complaint to our designated agent at (we prefer email):

Second, Automattic clearly states that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by automattic

Please be advised that you will be liable for damages (including costs and attorneys’ fees) if you materially misrepresent that a product or activity is infringing your copyrights. Thus, if you are not sure content located on or linked-to by the Website infringes your copyright, you should consider first contacting an attorney.

I think this was a SLAPP (not a filing, but with a similar lesser effect). It is definitely a peeve of mine.

06-28-2013, 01:59 PM	#1
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Roger Pearse Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: N/A Posts: 4,370	Done.

06-28-2013, 02:39 PM	#3
stephan huller Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 9,337	I'm too stupid for this. How is it done?

06-28-2013, 02:46 PM	#4
Adam Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Dixon CA Posts: 1,150	The topic on shutting down Vridar has been closed--probably meaning wordpress has gotten the message that they need to play fair with Neil. I saw earlier entries by Grog, Roger Pearse, and Hjalti favorable to Vridar. And that may be why it seems so difficult to get on the thread. As a member I could see more, I think.

06-28-2013, 02:57 PM	#5
Roger Pearse Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: N/A Posts: 4,370	No, the thread is closed. The last two posts were a Wordpress representative being gratuitously rude. Worth remembering, the next time Wordpress play the touchy-feely tune. Edit: or possibly just a random user being rude. Just seen another example of the same trolls mouthing off and being unhelpful, and reported it to the mods.

06-28-2013, 04:25 PM	#8
stephan huller Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 9,337	Just got this We're alive again. Here's the new address: http://vridar.org Pardon the disarray. Moving to the new host was not so easy

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