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Old 08-21-2013, 09:29 PM   #1
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Making Sense of Sex: Attitudes towards Sexuality in Early Jewish and Christian Literature (or via: amazon.co.uk) by William Loader

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I’ve been listening to ancient Jewish and Christian texts and what they say about sexuality for a number of years and have published major volumes of research to report my findings. Throughout my intensive study of these texts, I’ve tried to be careful to listen to what they were saying on their terms, in their language, culture, and world, whether I warmed to it or not. That has included listening to those texts which have come to be revered as scripture. With these there is a special danger. People have a personal spiritual investment in sacred texts. They want to hear certain things from them, positive or negative, which can tend to skew their listening.

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My latest book is an attempt to summarise my key findings in a way that makes them accessible to the everyday reader. It sketches the main things we can say about approaches to a whole range of sexual issues in early Jewish and Christian writings, from whether sex is good or bad, to where sex belongs and does not belong, to managing sexual desire, and, of course, to sexual orientation, a hot topic for many today. People from both sides of that debate value my work because it provides an informed starting point for discussion, even though they may ultimately differ greatly about how to approach such matters today.
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"The capstone of a project that has already produced five volumes of detailed research, this book establishes Loader as the Kinsey of biblical sexuality. Like Kinsey, he has taken a topic that has often been taboo and demystified it. His patient cataloguing of the diverse biblical attitudes to sexuality complicates the issue for anyone who would appeal to biblical authority in a simplistic way. This is a major contribution both to biblical scholarship and to practical theology.
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A new book:

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....Throughout my intensive study of these texts....
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"....His patient cataloguing of the diverse biblical attitudes to sexuality complicates the issue for anyone who would appeal to biblical authority ...
Watching people scurrying to curry favour with a morally corrupt establishment is always amusing. There is no text ever written by man that can't be manipulated by people determined enough; but no intelligent or critical person would do it.
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... but no intelligent or critical person would do it.
Alas, kind soul, (and we do need your eternal optimism!!! it is great!) history is replete with acts of treachery, dishonesty, overt fraud, forgery, and skullduggery, committed by brilliant folks.

Here's just two examples:

a. Charlemagne, emperor of Europe, 800 CE, presenting to Pope Leo III, the "holy foreskin". n.b. This was the FIRST, i.e. original, "holy foreskin".

b. Shroud of Turin, exhibited for the first time, in a church in France, in 1355, procured by the French nobleman and knight, Geoffroy de Charny.
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The lost Gospel of Judas Iscariot: a new look at betrayer and betrayed By Bart D. Ehrman


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"Epiphanius wrote an eighty-chapter book attacking Christian heretics and the Gospels they used.
In the course of his discussion he mentions a Gospel about Mary Magdalene that sounds very bizarre indeed.

In this account, Epiphanius alleges, Jesus took Mary to the top of a mountain
and then in her presence pulled a woman out from his side (much as Eve came forth from Adam)
and began having sexual inercouse with her. When he reached climax, he pulled out of her
and consumed his own semen, telling Mary: "Thus must we do, that we may live."

Mary, as one might understand, was shocked into unconsciousness.
Epiphanius called this alleged book "The Greater Questions of Mary".

Another source for Epiphanius discloses that the text continues ...

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Jesus awakens her, raises her up, and announces:
"O person of little faith, why did you doubt?"



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Kooka does it again

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Bart D. Ehrman does it again.

And who can doubt Bart's scholarship - the source is now online.

Some of the heretic authors were having a field day in the 4th century.







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