pudgyfarmer

Do Atheists believe in first coz? And if so who or what is it. Also if there is no first coz how did every thing get started? Doesn’t there have to be some supreme coz that started every thing in motion? And wouldn’t that supreme coz be God?

Viti

What's a coz?

pz

Atheists believe in a lot of different things.

I don't 'believe' in matters like that. I wait for evidence one way or another, and will provisionally accept a conclusion on the basis of that evidence.I don't know. Neither do you.

Theists, in particular, have no evidence in support of their rather extravagant claims of an anthropomorphic being with magical powers as 'first cause', so I reject them.No. Especially not the typical christian concept of god.

By the way, why are you using this odd affectation of spelling "cause" as "coz"?

pudgyfarmer

a coz is soem thing that starts some thign els. for instence in order for a car to move it must be pushed by the engin, and the engin must be moved by igniting the fuel. this is like the christian belief that God cozed the world to come into being in that case God is the first Coz

Philosoft

Ordinarily this would be an EoG topic, but, since I am suspicious, off to ~~Elsewhere~~...

Viti

Your troll is showing...if you know how to spell atheist, you know how to spell cause

Eudaimonist

I don't think there can be a first cause of Existence, because that cause would have to exist prior to Existence, and so Existence would not be explained at all. There can be no cause of Existence, and so no first cause in the sense I think you mean.

My view is that Existence is self-sufficient (not in need of a cause), and all we can do is talk about the cause of the form of this or that entity (such as discussing what causal process led to the formation of humans, galaxies, etc).

Eudaimonist

Okay, wait a minute. Maybe there is a first coz...

pz

I said, "By the way, why are you using this odd affectation of spelling 'cause' as 'coz'?". I didn't ask you to define it, because as was obvious, I already knew. I also used the correct spelling.

So I'll be a little more blunt, then. Why are you persisting in using this moronically bad spelling? Are you uneducable?

Jinto

Fact: if you are too stupid to spell "cause" correctly, you might be a redneck.

Fiction: that the universe requires a first cause, being that general relativity demonstrates the mathematical impossibility of a time earlier than the beginning of the universe.