Amos

The birth of Christ is the culmination of the daily masses and represents the crisis moment that occurs on the darkest night and shortest day of the Church's calender year. Christ was born at midnight, midwinter, midlife in the life of Joseph the upright carpenter who, according to the mystery myth, fathered this child.

In much the same way as it happened to Joseph, this birth of Christ, as the mystery of faith, is carried forward by the Catholic Church to occur at midnight, midwinter and midlife in the mind of the upright believer and is preceded by advent to signify this.

In comparative mythlogy this event can be compared with the daily rounds of samsara that culminate in the final round of samsara after which time suffering will cease and the Buddhist monk 'enters' Nirvana.

In Classical Greece the accumilation of [daily] forms were aimed to culminate in the Ultimate Form after which the hero enjoys the new golden age of the Elysian Fields.

In Koine Greek the formation of [daily] ousia's were to culminate in the final or Parousia, which is wherein we have noetic vison of the natural world.

In all of the above the accumilations that are sure to culminate are the actual price to be paid in exchange for the "pearl of great worth" (called Christmas, Final Round, Ultimate Form and Parousia above). From this follows that without daily masses the Christ-child will never be born in the life of non-Catholics and so I wonder how Christmas can be celebrated without any real justification for it? An empty promise, perhaps?

Maybe the best to say is: Merry Christ-m-a-s and hope for the best.

The Admiral

I say Merry Solstice, the reason for the season. Me and millions of others.

The Admiral

Sephiroth

*doesn't celebrate Christmas*

Err, yeah, Amos, whatever. There are 2 problems here.

1) Just from reading the Gospels it's obvious from the sheeps and shepherds stuff that he was born in either Spring or Autumn if he existed.

2) If you want to tell people who should celebrate what then you're free to do so, just be sure to say such in the appropriate forum.

Thank you for your time.