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Indifference · 04-21-2002, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by Amos:
I hold that the Universe does not exist but all that exists finds its existence in space and this space is what we call the Universe. So if the Big Bang created the Universe it didn't do much (not that that makes God look any better).

Space is like time and neither exist but we find our existence in space and time. If you think that space is real and time is real, you must be the one that is not real (but I still like your whip).

hmmm... give me a minute to let that soak in...

Stephen Maturin · 04-21-2002, 07:59 PM

The universe doesn't need a cause, but on the stated assumption that it does, I vote for Ray Charles. <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

Indifference · 04-21-2002, 08:00 PM

still soaking...

case · 04-21-2002, 09:34 PM

Why are you people still arguing over this? Everyone knows that the universe exists because Kip Thorne lost a bet to Stephen Hawking.

Seeker196 · 04-22-2002, 05:07 AM

The universe and all human life was created as a joke or mistake by the Great Old Ones.

Princess of Peace · 04-22-2002, 05:26 AM

In the beginning, there was an invisible pink unicorn. No, not THAT invisible pink unicorn. This one's male. Anyway, this invisible pink unicorn had indigestion, and farted. Out of the fart came vast amounts of energy and matter, otherwise known as the Big Bang.

But what caused this invisible pink unicorn to come into existance? Well, obviously, He must have had a mother, who happened to also be pink and invisble. But where did She come from? Well, obviously, She had a mother as well.

Bree · 04-22-2002, 06:29 AM

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Originally posted by Amos:


(but I still like your whip).

Thanks!

So - you're saying that we exist only because we believe we exist? Or did I miss something?

Indifference · 04-22-2002, 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by Princess of Peace:
But what caused this invisible pink unicorn to come into existance? Well, obviously, He must have had a mother, who happened to also be pink and invisble. But where did She come from? Well, obviously, She had a mother as well.

interesting. have you ever heard the "turtels all the way down" flat earth theory?

Kosh · 04-22-2002, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amos:


I hold that the Universe does not exist but all that exists finds its existence in space and this space is what we call the Universe. So if the Big Bang created the Universe it didn't do much (not that that makes God look any better).

Please Amos, it's Monday...

"If this really is a dream, why can't there be
more women?"

04-22-2002, 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by Bree:

Thanks!

So - you're saying that we exist only because we believe we exist? Or did I miss something?

Sorry about the whip and I don't want you to get funny ideas but I just love stiletto heels and a whip because they can make us realize that you exist.

To believe that the universe exists would require an essence of existence and neither time nor space have this quality. No big deal Bree but existence in my view requires a corporeal substance and neither time nor space have this.

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04-21-2002, 07:59 PM	#22
Stephen Maturin Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Broomfield, Colorado, USA Posts: 1,295	The universe doesn't need a cause, but on the stated assumption that it does, I vote for Ray Charles. <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

04-21-2002, 08:00 PM	#23
Indifference Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 165	still soaking...

04-21-2002, 09:34 PM	#24
case Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 420	Why are you people still arguing over this? Everyone knows that the universe exists because Kip Thorne lost a bet to Stephen Hawking.

04-22-2002, 05:07 AM	#25
Seeker196 Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 278	The universe and all human life was created as a joke or mistake by the Great Old Ones.

04-22-2002, 05:26 AM	#26
Princess of Peace Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 109	In the beginning, there was an invisible pink unicorn. No, not THAT invisible pink unicorn. This one's male. Anyway, this invisible pink unicorn had indigestion, and farted. Out of the fart came vast amounts of energy and matter, otherwise known as the Big Bang. But what caused this invisible pink unicorn to come into existance? Well, obviously, He must have had a mother, who happened to also be pink and invisble. But where did She come from? Well, obviously, She had a mother as well.

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