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06-04-2001, 10:23 AM | #1 |
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Fallen, Promethean or Cyclical ?
One of the contrasts between worldviews are their perception of history.
The Abrahamic religions suggest that man has 'fallen' from a prior state of grace. Human history is a period of darkness compared to the time before 'The Fall'. Life is harder, nastier and more brutish than the 'creator' meant it to be. The Hellenistic view is one of growth from a period of darkness. Mankind, perhaps with supernatural help, has a life that is better than the one the gods had in mind. History can be seen as a trajectory climbing out of a more miserable past. Eastern philosophies suggest a cyclical history, which I understand to be revolving epochs of enlightenment and barbarity. Personally, 'The Fall' has always struck me as far too harsh and pessimistic. I am much more sympathetic to the Promethean view of man 'progressing' away from our more base nature. How, if at all, do these views of history reflect themselves in other philosophies? |
06-04-2001, 02:14 PM | #2 |
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I personally like the cyclic idea--- it makes 'sense' to me.
I had a place I was going with this, but I lost it with an emergency phone call... ah, well... maybe later... |
06-04-2001, 02:50 PM | #3 |
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Good question, but much depends on "the rest of the story." For example, the Christian view of history is redemptive. Yes, we are fallen, but God is acting through time to accomplish His purposes and bring His children into a state of grace. Thus, there is hope despite present circumstances.
The cyclical world-view strikes me as ever-so depressing. Round and round, we travel the Great Wheel, and whatever we accomplish, we eventually wind up right back where we started. The flip side of the Promethean world-view, of course, is the Icarian perspective. Are we more like Prometheus, or Icarus? I guess it depends on which trends you choose to focus on. Eric Blair's vision of the future was hardly optimistic... |
06-04-2001, 03:39 PM | #4 |
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Personally, I prefer the Promethean view, in part because it also makes a good metaphor for the personal development of moral chararacter.
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The concept is base upon that each element is being countered by one of them eg. gold is afraid of fire, fire afraid of water ... So when the time come for an element to be in prominent, there will be signs of it & a new rule/age will appear & thus the symbolic cyclical system. This however is just one of many of the world views which arises at the same period of Spring/Autumn/Warring States when society as a whole is in chaos & give birth to five major views - 1 Confucianism - Kong Tze Using Propriety & "Ren" (sorry this word is in chinese - don't know how to translate) as basis for society. 2 Taoism - Lao Tze Individualistic refinement of self thru the "path" to restore one with nature. To become "Sian" - Immortal. 3 Moist - Mo Tze Exaggerating the "powers" of the supernatural inorder to use religion as a form of "weapon" to spread peace. Pacifists. 4 "Lawyers" (direct translation) Using law & order as defined by authority & killing off the concept of religions. 5 YingYangs (Five Elements) The cyclical view by using the historical five rulers as example of change brought upon by the elements. PS Will try to explain further if I remember - running out of time. Gotta go ... |
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