sophie

It has come to my attention that a favourite pastime of logic buffs is to formulate logical arguments with the intent to peer into the mind of omniGOD.

Typically this type of premising tries to pin possibile reasons why omniGOD may be responsible for events faced in reality.

Typically this intends to pin certain characteristics on the unknown. Unknown cause, unknown reaction, unknown will, but know result. The first fallacy is placing subjective comprehension into the realm of the unknown.

It is a known technique when handling the unknown, that all one can rationally say about the unknown is what it is not. We can list all the possibilities of what it possibly may be but there will be no good reason to accept this list of possibilities in the absence of evidence. If we remember we cannot stretch the evidence then we may be a long way away from breaching the honesty of a sound logical argument.

The second fallacy is taking any evidence as if it were in a vaccuum.

Are there any reliable sources using suitable evidence from reality to support or contradict my claim about
rationally knowing the unknown.

emotional

If God is utterly unknowable, why should we care about Him? There is not a more stultifying conviction than "we cannot know". Enquiring minds want to know, even about God.

sophie

emotional, how do you propose to overcome the deficiency of what we cannot know?

winstonjen

The scientific method, questioning, and learning.

Abel Stable

How do we even know if something is unknowable? What is the human knowledge threshold?

emotional

Who says we cannot know? I hold that God is knowable - if not in this life, then surely in the afterlife. His ultimate essence cannot be known, but all except that, can be known.

sophie

winstonjen : If you can find this omniGOD surely I agree. Then would you say without this scientific method it becomes irrational to draw conclusions about omniGOD especially if there has been no questions answered.

Would it then be suitable to say because the omniGOD has not submitted to simple questioning or even demonstrated presence, we can conclude omniGOD does not exist for us. Likewise if perchance the omniGOD does exist omniGOD is irrelevant to us. Of course this does not mean omniGOD is not relevant to others.

sophie

emotional : Then possibly in the afterlife. You cannot clearly determine if omniGOD will even show up if there is an afterlife.

Does the possibility not exist that one may have eternal life BUT never encounter the omniGOD? You may never know omniGOD but you become to know yourself!

emotional

No, it's not possible. Everyone who comes to the afterlife gets to meet God in person. He is Light of Love that all who die meet. They stand in front of Him while He plays them their Life Review.

"Know thyself" is a Gnostic doctrine. I'm not a Gnostic. I don't believe in "the god within", I believe only in the God without. I believe there is a God, and that I am not Him. God alone is God.

sophie

emotional : News to me. I guess we have different sources of information. Can you qualify your information and to which authority you rely on for justification.

following this : I think getting to know yourself is a natural part of life on this Earth. I do accept your testimony that you are not omniGOD as I am willing to accept your belief in an omniGOD.

What I will be hesitant to accept is how you acquire information about omniGOD without some reasonable answer on your part.