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Virgin Birth in the Shark World
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Aw, fuck. It looks like God has a new chosen race ...
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"This complex process, known as parthenogenesis, is very common in snails and water fleas, but becomes more unusual in higher vertebrates."
Could it happen with humans? Seriously. |
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Without any special equipment? (NO, NOT THAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT, if it was used, it wouldn't be a virgin birth, now would it?) I don't know.
I do know that you can have virgin births with at least turkeys (voltage potential across the egg), chickens (I think), and catfish (pressure treatment, I don't remember the details). All involove (I think) tricking the egg to begin duplicating its DNA. I would not be surprised if it has been done on quite a number of animals at this point - I think the turkey egg/voltage has been known for decades. I know I read about the catfish thing about 1990. Could it be done with humans - I don't see any reason it couldn't. I don't know what tricks may work with mammals, but I don't doubt it is possible. Now, if anybody has found the trick yet is another question entirely.... Simian edited because there is a significant difference between would and wouldn't [ September 20, 2002: Message edited by: simian ]</p> |
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Parthenogenesis happens in a number of species of lizards, notably some geckos and whiptails. In these species, there are no males, which eliminates lot of macho posing, bragging, and fisticufs.
I have also read of some snakes giving parthenogenitc birth, but I need to see a little (a lot!) more evidence before I buy it. doov |
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A little more....
Snailes, slugs, nudibrancs, and so forth are hermaphrodicic, that is, they have both male and female sex organs. Each fertilizes the other. In some nudibrancs, true love involves a fight to see which can penetrate the other. The loser has to raise the kids. I think that this has to be solid evidence of evolution. No supreme being would come up with something this outrageous unless totally wasted on some really bad whiskey. doov [ September 20, 2002: Message edited by: Duvenoy ]</p> |
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I just looked it up, and you're right. I'd forgotten all about these little immigrents (FL is full of them).
Thanks, doov |
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