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Old 06-14-2003, 05:18 AM   #51
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Since the world is suffering from symptoms of overpopulation, it seems mighty ironic to me that some people are threatened by a practice that doesn't add to the problem of overpopulation. The world's population has more than doubled in the last 50 years. I find that frightening. How will humanity be able to find the necessary resources to support such a rapidly growing population? There are already serious concerns that water is becoming a limited resource. Those who practise homosexuality are doing the rest of us a favor.

I think that those who oppose gay sex are just suffering from their own bigotry and prejudice. Such prejudice is based on long standing bias against those who live their lives a little bit differently than the rest of us. Homosexuality is no threat to anyone. How could the sexual practices of two consenting adults possibly be a threat? Bigotry is a potential threat to all of us that want to live in a positive, tolerant society filled with interesting and diverse people.
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As southernhybrid just pointed out, we have a problem on earth of overpopulation, so why should we care that not everyone is reproducing, for whatever reason? I know several heterosexuals who have moral problems with other heterosexuals having more than one or two kids because of the overpopulation problem.

Aren't we all here to experience life, which for some (like me) includes the very rewarding experience of raising children, but certainly includes much more? I know many homosexuals, who in my opinion, are contributing a lot more to society than lots of heterosexuals I know. I'm not even sure it's up to me to care how much everyone is contributing to the community as long as they're not bothering me in the first place.


On a lighter note, Dr. Rick, what were you doing in the gaggle of potential bouquet catchers in the first place? I thought that was for single people and aren't you married? I mean, there are some traditions we shouldn't mess with!
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On a lighter note, Dr. Rick, what were you doing in the gaggle of potential bouquet catchers in the first place? I thought that was for single people and aren't you married? I mean, there are some traditions we shouldn't mess with!
Oh, that's just great: now you're advocating discrimination against married heterosexuals...
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Just married people. The couple whose wedding you attended would no longer be eligible for the bouquet or garter toss either.
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Since the world is suffering from symptoms of overpopulation, it seems mighty ironic to me that some people are threatened by a practice that doesn't add to the problem of overpopulation. The world's population has more than doubled in the last 50 years. I find that frightening. How will humanity be able to find the necessary resources to support such a rapidly growing population? There are already serious concerns that water is becoming a limited resource. Those who practise homosexuality are doing the rest of us a favor.
THANK YOU, southernhybrid! I tell people this all the time and I am tired of the puzzled looks. How people overlook this pbvious problem, I do not know. It's like, how crowded do you want this earth to GET?
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As southernhybrid just pointed out, we have a problem on earth of overpopulation, so why should we care that not everyone is reproducing, for whatever reason? I know several heterosexuals who have moral problems with other heterosexuals having more than one or two kids because of the overpopulation problem.
That's me! I was waiting at a restaurant the other night and a couple was levaing with 5 children! They took forever gathering them up and taking them to the restroom, so as I was waiting, I had plenty of time to observe the scariness! I didn't realize my thoughts of how disgusting and selfish they are were revealed in my look. Apparently I was scowling and the mom tried to give me a smile. I felt kinda bad, but sometimes, I just am too grossed out!****The previsou reveals cheetah's TRUE uncensored feelings and are not to be taken as a political or philosophical stance I take. I am just grossed out by it, like some people are grossed out by sauerkraut.
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The couple whose wedding you attended would no longer be eligible for the bouquet or garter toss either.
Gosh, I didn't know that.

One other question: do I still get to kiss the bride?
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Up to this point I have used the methods of moral relativism to show how homosexuality is wrong. However, you want me to show how its wrong as a moral absolute. It is useless for me to argue from a moral absolute point of view if no one here believes in moral absolutes.

However, if someone does then I would be more than happy to show how homosexuality is wrong for all poeple for all time, no exceptions. Does anyone here believe in moral absolutes?

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Up to this point I have used the methods of moral relativism to show how homosexuality is wrong.
It would be a lot more accurate to say that you have tried to show how homosexuality is wrong. Had you actually shown us that it is wrong, we would now believe that it is wrong.
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However, if someone does then I would be more than happy to show how homosexuality is wrong for all poeple for all time, no exceptions. Does anyone here believe in moral absolutes?
If I do, it's because a certain action always leads to a negative outcome, with no benefits to society whatsoever. I believe that certain things are always wrong - for instance, enslaving people, or forcing them to have sex against their will. Since relationships between two consenting adults do not seem to harm society any more than they benefit society, and since I personally have many gay friends, and personally know gay couples and they don't appear to be morally corrupt, I have a tough time believing that their actions are always morally wrong. So - convince me.

As a hint though - Do I believe that moral absolute truth can be gleaned from a poorly-written book filled with middle eastern fairy tales? No most of us here do not, so I don't recommend using that as part of your argument.

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