World's Youngest Atheist

GOD.
Amongst other slaughters, God kills the entire human race and tens of thousands more throughout the bible. And while we're on the subject, why did God have to flood the world? Couldn't he just snap his fingers and make us all disappear? No...because he wanted to MAKE US SUFFER.

This one works a charm on theists. Try it!

Theophilus, I'm looking in your direction....

- World's Youngest Atheist

Triple Six

If we are looking at characters that probably existed then Mohammed would be a serious contender if you decide his legacy makes him guilty. Not only was he a murderous leader in life but there was the islamic expansion and conquest afterwards. Throw in centuries of unyielding oppression right through to today and you have a massive blood soaked CV. Compare that with history's other evil figures like Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc; once they died their system of terror followed fairly quickly afterwards.

bllah

I'd say Samuel Colt is a strong contender for the first place. He singlehandedly popularized the gun culture in US primarily for increasing his profits.

sullster

Wow, I didn't realize there were anti-gun nuts in the Baltic countries.

To the point you are making, I say in good old American language-"Hogwash!".

The use and prevalance of guns predated Samual Colt, so your blaming of him for starting a "gun culture" is very wrong. Colt did what was going on in Europe at the same time, which was applying industrial mass production to fire arms. The Germans, French, Russians, Italians were mass producing fire-arms and maybe a few guys in your little back-woods country were doing it too.

You know, maybe if there was a bit of a "gun culture" in your country, then maybe the Russians, then the Germans, and then the Russians again wouldn't have run over your country.

Which brings me to my nomination for most deadly murderer- Joseph Stalin Absolutely
Didn't he deport half of your population in the 1930's?

elwoodblues

"Which brings me to my nomination for most deadly murderer- Joseph Stalin"

Right. God is an amateur, compared to the nasty things we dream up for one another. Sure, he basically wiped the world clean of humans thousands of years ago. How many? Tens of thousands? Maybe a couple hundred thousand? Those are kiddy numbers. Hell, Hitler beat that hands down. Stalin would just be warming up. Pol Pot could probably spank those numbers. God's a bloody amateur compared to humans.

As for the allegation against Samuel Colt: The 'gun culture' you mention was largely a result of the Frontier Mentality. Hell, a lot of the American psyche can be explained this way (in the same way that the Cold-War Russian psyche can be largely explained by looking at how many millions of people were killed on it's soil in various wars over 150 years or so). It's an integral part of understanding the way Americans think, especially non-urban Americans.

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kwigibo

well as we all know, there was no flood, so i nominate bubonic plague

The Naked Mage

If we're gonna get into non-human disasters, I'd have to say earthquakes in general - PARTICULARLY in Japan.

Otherwise, I'll third Stalin.

sullster

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theophilus

First, I think there are many here who would dispute your claim to be the Youngest Atheist, since they assert that everyone is born an atheist and has to be "indoctrinated" into theism.

Second, your argument fails because of the fallacy of equivocation. Muder means "unjust taking of life." We recognize that not all killing is murder; self-defense, defensive war, judicial executions, etc.
Since God, as the creator, is the judge of his creation, his killing of people is an exercise of judicial execution.
God had given clear warning to Adam & Eve, "when you eat the (forbidden) fruit, you will die." They ate, and they came under a death sentence, as were all their posterity, because all sin.
God's destruction of humankind inthe flood was actually a mercy. If you'll read the account carefully, you'll see that mankind was headed toward self-destruction. If God had not intervened to save some and purge the earth of corruption, no one would have survived.
Those who were killed in the flood were receiving the just sentence for their sin. Their "suffering" was the natural consequence of their actions.
BTW, which way were you looking?

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sullster

After reading Theophilus's justification for god's killing spree, I realize that god is a nihilistic monster on an order that is amazing. Such a god is worthy only of contempt and armed resistance. If there is such a god, I hope there are more powerful gods elsewhere in the universe who can come and destroy him. A well placed celestial nuclear weapon could end the god's fiendish ways. He should be utterly destroyed for decieving humans and then killing them for being decieved. He is an outrage and deserving of being blown into spiritual bits by ,hopefully, friendly gods. Down with the tyrant god!!!!