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99Percent · 07-05-2002, 07:44 PM

After seeing a couple of pages about the <a href="http://www.satan4u.8m.com/" target="_blank">Satanics</a> (since they are marching with the Godless Americans) and seeing missus gumby <a href="http://www.english-atheist.co.uk/ignore.jpg" target="_blank">brilliant photoshop image</a> (notice the crosses for stars), it occured to me:

Why the heck does the US flag show its stars as pentagrams

Aren't pentagrams symbols of the devil? And secondly no self-respecting "Christian Nation" will ever proclaim independence with exactly thirteen states!

Toto · 07-05-2002, 11:48 PM

The number of points on the star has varied through time - it is not specified in law.

Here's one (Masonic) explanation for the five-pointed star:

<a href="http://209.238.202.160/council/journal/jun00/lichty.html" target="_blank">Why Stars and Stripes?</a>

Quote:

The central, defining fact of the American revolution is that it was a result and outgrowth of the Great 18th Century Enlightenment which was sweeping Europe. It is hard for us, as children of the Enlightenment, to realize how things were back then. Before the Enlightenment, if you had said the phrase "human rights" to someone, he would have had no idea what you meant. Being human gave you no rights at all. Rights and privileges (and they were virtually the same thing) belonged only to royalty and, to a some extent, to the lesser nobility. Almost everyone else was, in one way or another, owned.

It was not slavery as we usually think of the term. But there were rules. Both church and state rigidly enforced them, and they told you where you could live, what kinds of clothing you could wear�as well as which fabrics it could be made of and what colors it could be dyed, which jobs you could hold, how much you would contribute to the church, how large your house could be, how many windows it could have, and where you could be buried. And there was much more.

The usual punishment for a first offense was a fine, with imprisonment and torture for a second offense. There was a place for everyone, and everyone was in his place. What you wanted or did not want was not even a question, certainly not an issue.

The Great Enlightenment came, and no wonder the ideas were so heady that some men and women became drunk with the idea of freedom. The Enlightenment thinkers said such unbelievable, treasonable and heretical things as You have a right to make decisions about your own life. Your life belongs to you, not to the state or church. No one has the right to take from you without your consent. You have rights, just like the king and nobles, and you have those rights just because you are a human being. They are given to you by God himself, and no one can take them from you.

The Enlightenment transformed Freemasonry, of course. The Fraternity became one of the major sources by which the ideas and ideals of the Enlightenment were spread across Europe and, ultimately across the sea to the American Colonies.

That, perhaps, helps to understand the "new constellation." We were still in a time when most men and women believed that the stars influenced human fate and destiny. In addition to the obvious symbolism coming from navigation, where men used the stars to steer the course of their ships, a "new constellation" represented a new force in the destiny of humanity. America was founded in the belief that men and women could control their own futures and chart their own course. The watchword of the Enlightenment was, in effect, "man is superior over institutions, and not they over him." That same understanding may explain the five-pointed star as well. For a long time, the five-pointed star had been a symbol of man.

(But then the Masons may be in on the Satanic plot.)

The Other Michael · 07-06-2002, 07:40 AM

99Percent,

They couldn't use 6 pointed Stars of David on the flag - that would be sooo unChristian.

cheers,
Michael

07-05-2002, 07:44 PM	#1
99Percent Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: my mind Posts: 5,996	Two points that "prove" the US is actually a Satanic Nation After seeing a couple of pages about the <a href="http://www.satan4u.8m.com/" target="_blank">Satanics</a> (since they are marching with the Godless Americans) and seeing missus gumby <a href="http://www.english-atheist.co.uk/ignore.jpg" target="_blank">brilliant photoshop image</a> (notice the crosses for stars), it occured to me: Why the heck does the US flag show its stars as pentagrams Aren't pentagrams symbols of the devil? And secondly no self-respecting "Christian Nation" will ever proclaim independence with exactly thirteen states!

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The Other Michael Honorary Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In the fog of San Francisco Posts: 12,631	99Percent, They couldn't use 6 pointed Stars of David on the flag - that would be sooo unChristian. cheers, Michael

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