Dr Rick

Does the average muslim care that there are seven Earths as well as heavens?

"It is Allah Who has created seven heavens, and earths as many ..." Sura. 65:12

...that the sun sets into a muddy spring?

Till, when he [the traveller Zul-qarnain] reached
the setting-place of the sun,
he found it going down into a muddy spring, ...
-- Sura Sura 18:86

...that ant's talk?

At length, when they came to a valley of ants, one of the ants said: "O ye ants, get into your habitations, lest Solomon and his hosts crush you (under foot) without knowing it. - Sura An-Naml 27:18

...or that the stars were created as missiles to throw at the devils and to not let them eavesdrop on heavenly conversations?

And We have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps, and we have made such lamps missiles to drive away Satans, ...
-- Sura 67:5

We have indeed decked the lower heaven with beauty in the stars, to guard against all obstinate rebellious Satans so they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.
-- Sura 37:6-8

River

No ...the sun does not set in muddy strings.....I have already addressed this in the "Official Koran and Science thread".


I am pretty sure that ants communicate somehow....perhaps telepathy

River

Yes, there are multiple Earths, alternative Worlds and Dimensions. Some, even with life forms.

River

No, the "missiles" is an erroneous translation. Logically speaking missiles were only invented recently ....and no arab civilisation had " missile technology " 1400 years ago. I hope you aren't trying to subtlely imply that there were Islamic militants then ( 1400 years ago with an arsenal of missiles).

Dr Rick

And just as before, suggesting that the sun sets into mud is not a very good argument.

Neither by sound nor telepathy, it turns out.

Ants communicate by smell and pheremones. They trigger alarms and signs of food to other ants by releasing chemicals, not by speech or vibration.

Perhaps now we'll be told that Solomon "heard" the pheremones?

Projectiles were known to Islamic "militants" at the time the Qur'an was written.

River

1)I didn't say that the sun sets in muddy banks in my previous commentary.


2) Solomon is not a typical Prophet in Islam. He is believed to have Supernatural Abilities in both Islam and Jewish Cabbala. He commanded an army of Jinns and understood the " language" of all animals.

3) I cannot comment on the third .

River

Synesthesia. This is indeed, a scientific possibility.

Magus55

The word for day in the Bible can also mean an era or "age". In the context, it means a single day - but the Quran has nothing over the Bible because the Bible uses a word that can mean the same thing too. The more and more I hear about the Quran, the more I realize it was just copied from the Bible and other Christian documents, many of which are considered forgeries ( you said yourself alot of the Quran comes from the Gospel of Thomas, which almost no theologist would accept has authentic or valid).

If the Quran is so superior to the Bible, River, why did it come 2000+ years later?

River

First of all, the Gospel of Thomas is more authentic than the New Testament.

Secondly, the Quran came about 500 years after the New Testament ( The Bible)

Dr Rick