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Old 06-12-2003, 11:37 PM   #41
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Many people here are suffering from severe depression. I don't see you taking that into account when you blithely rip them to shreds with your talented, but forked, tongue. Can you honestly say you do? Do you consider others feelings, as well? Or are we just to consider your own delicate sensitivities?
I find this totally ironic considering you are the one who sees fit to espouse your opinion of my faults in a completely unrelated thread. Oh, and another piece of irony for you, i have seen you launch into unwarranted attacks before, so please refrain from characterising me so. your opinions run the risk of seeming hypocritical. I have never gone so far as to call someone "a fucking wanker" on the boards as you have, for example.

and if you think i don't care about anyone else, it shows you have no idea who i am.

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Anyway, FWIW, I am genuinely sorry that you are feeling as bad as you do. I know how that feels. I'm happy for you that you are able to do something about that, and I wish you all the best in your treatment.
you characterise me as a selfish uncaring whore, only concerned with my own problems, then you claim to feel some sort of sympathy or empathy for me. I find it hard to reconcile these two alleged feelings, therefore i will dismiss the one which seems more insincere given your attack on me and the sarcasm oozing out of the UBB coding.

However, this would only present a problem if either one of your opinions, the sympathetic or the hurtful, had any impact on me; which fortunately cannot be said.

And if you want to discuss why I am an insensitive cold bitch, take it somewhere else. I utterly refuse to participate in this any further. This thread is about someone desperate to fuck an Asian woman or 10, not about probing my deficiencies.
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BTW, having lived in China for a year, I can make some good, educated, guesses about the feasability of trying to get laid in China, where to go, what to do, and what the risks would be.

It pleases me not to share these insights at this time.
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I find this totally ironic considering you are the one who sees fit to espouse your opinion of my faults in a completely unrelated thread. Oh, and another piece of irony for you, i have seen you launch into unwarranted attacks before, so please refrain from characterising me so. your opinions run the risk of seeming hypocritical. I have never gone so far as to call someone "a fucking wanker" on the boards as you have, for example.

and if you think i don't care about anyone else, it shows you have no idea who i am.
Yes, that's true.
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BTW, having lived in China for a year, I can make some good, educated, guesses about the feasability of trying to get laid in China, where to go, what to do, and what the risks would be.

It pleases me not to share these insights at this time.
You selfish person!!!!!
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jJiblex was possibly showing misandrony, not misanthropy.

But hell, Genghis' post was a little abrasive, so I'll cut lots of slack.

I do believe the carnivorous fetishism that men and sometimes women portray about their preferred sex along racial or other lines is a tricky question. Objectification definitiely is happening, but also some people get into grooves or likes and dislikes that are deeper than are healthy. Then, they can only get off with someone who meets those qualifications. And that is a sad sight.

But think of it this way, (to play these stereoypes out fully) lets say a guy is attracted to Asian chicks becasue he sees them as cute, polite and (dare I say it?) docile. Now say he fucks a few who are kind of that way, and he develops a full blown fetish taht is almost autonomic. What can ironically happen next is that he will want almost any Asian woman even though she may be ugly, rude and overbearing. While at the same time we will ignore White, Black or Latin women who have the good qualities that he attached too strongly to Asian women alone. If the most objective part of your brain sees you picking an Asian that you realize is probably a 2 over a Black who is an 8 then you are short changing yourself.

Last week, I worked with a party host black woman, who was as feminine and pretty as they come and I had the common sense to realize that she is the kind I'd consider dating seriously, though I don't usually like black women.

Genghis, you need to get some good porn with smoking hot FEMININE black, white and latin women so you can round out these brain circuits and not get screwed by an avoidable fetish. The reason I empsized feminine, is because too many people think that asian women have a corner on it.

Oh, and stay the hell away from Japanese porn, it is a complete manipulation of the male psyche that is almost pedophilic and that few westerners are immune to. Besides, it is every bit as unrealistic as American porn as to the way Asian women have sex.
If you think Asian women are docile, just marry one and let's see.
They are pretty though cookies, and they ar NOT docile.
Let's say that in public they are accomodating to your male pride, but when the door closes, the picture is quite different. The docility is a myth.
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You selfish person!!!!!
Selfish?! I am trying to protect the world from a horrible fate, overcoming my natural tendency to chatter freely in the hopes of preventing a great horror from occurring.
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Thor, I guess I see what you are talking about, I think it is referred to as the "sword in the crysanthemum".

If a white guy like me sees a Black woman and an Asian FOB (fresh off the boat) woman, and they both seems to have the same level of politeness and even perhaps moderate docility. Now, I'll posit that the Asian woman is more likely to be putting on a role of femininity than the black woman who is from a culture that is much more direct and aggressive. It takes a black woman who is near incurably feminine to be this way in America. She won't change like the Asian most likely will. And believe me, I have seen it happen!

So Seebs how badly and how recently were you screwed over by this Asian woman? And more importantly, did you start out as cocky as Genghis? Did you have incorrect assumptions and stereotypes that you are kicking yourself over now?

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Normally, I don't try to play peacemaker, because I'm not usually successful. However, I'm going to make an exception in this case.

Ju'iblex: I'm rather inclined to agree with your initial post. A bit more scathing than what I would have written, had I read this thread sooner, but pretty much on target.
In your first response to Lunachick, you say that your temperment is a result of your personal problems. I won't pretend that I know you (save having seen a few posts by you), but I do have empathy for you. I'm sorry that you're having problems, and hope that they are solved soon (empty platitudes, I know. In the horribly unlikely event that there's some way I could actually help, however, please feel free to pm me.)

Lunachick: Yes, Ju'iblex could be nicer to others. No, I don't suppose you could have known the reasons why she wasn't.

It seems to me, though, that neither of you have been as tactful as you might have. I'm not going to blame either of you for it; I know that stress and depression can take quite a toll on civility. Likewise, I know that it can be somewhat frustrating to deal with people that are very negative, especially if it seems to be directed towards a certain group. At the same time, though, I think you both may have taken more offense than was warranted.
For example, Ju'iblex, yes, Lunachick implied (and not particularly delicately) that you may have been overly harsh towards those you disagree with, and perhaps even neglecting to consider their feelings before lambasting them. This, however, doesn't equate to calling you "a selfish, uncaring whore", or a "cold bitch". She neither said that you are always this way, nor this way towards everyone (unless I misunderstood the context?).
Lunachick, for your part, though, I think that you must have been reading more than was there when you said "blithely rip them to shreds with your talented, but forked, tongue." She insulted someone, true, and with, IMHO, devastating wit. However, I cannot help but feel, reading the OP, that this person is not so thin-skinned that they will feel more than rebuke from her post (even if they should). Maybe I've missed something she did elsewhere, but that wasn't in this thread (and we're pretty far off-topic, as it is. *sigh*. I'll try to include something on topic at the end of this post.)
Anyhow, rather than catfight with each other about who's right or wrong: Ju'iblex, you've so much as admitted that your posts have been at least partially due to your ill-temperment of late. Don't you think that, rather than try to rationalize (even if it is a good reason), you should accept that taking out your frustrations on others, while a very human thing to do, is neither productive, nor particularly mature. Lunachick: I'm sure your intentions were good, but then, bleater missionaries often have good intentions, too. Before rebuking, perhaps you could (tactfully) enquire as to the reason for her (seeming) hostility? And then, after learning the reason, you could say "well, yeah, I understand that, I suppose. Why, when I'm frustrated and/or upset, I guess I am naturally inclined to take it out on others. I guess I can cut her some slack." And then, if you *do* decide that it should still be brought up (and I'm not saying it shouldn't. I think it's healthy for people to be made aware of when they're doing that.), do it *tactfully* and respectfully? It will accomplish a lot more than a confrontational method, 9 times out of 10.
<dons flame-resistant armor, and thickens skin>

Now, regarding the actual topic of the thread.

I haven't been to china. No, I'm one of those ugly americans who's never left the continent I was born on (except for visiting some islands). However, in my (admittedly) limited experience, and from the (somewhat more varied) experiences of those whom I've talked to, there are some attitudes that will get you places, and some that won't. As far as I've been able to tell, though, it's mostly exclusive to the US that going somewhere with specific intent to get laid by exotic local women, and relying primarily on a rather closed-minded and arrogant attitude, will actually work on anyone but prostitutes (I find it sad that it is ever successful, but that's a different issue).

As such, yes, *sigh*, it is fairly likely that you will get "laid" there, but it's about equally likely that you'll get gang-beaten for being an arrogant, self-absorbed, asinine, prick. If that's the impression you want to create in other people, well, I won't (and, indeed, can't) stop you, but neither will I feel any pity if you get the crap beaten out of you.
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Girls, girls.

You're both pretty.
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BTW, having lived in China for a year, I can make some good, educated, guesses about the feasability of trying to get laid in China, where to go, what to do, and what the risks would be.

It pleases me not to share these insights at this time.
Seebs, Ultra-Provocateur.

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Hiya, NonHomogenised.

Don't worry, I have no intentions of fuelling a catfight. My original post was rather indelicate, and I spoke out of place. I still feel pretty much the same way, though perhaps not as strongly as I did when I posted this morning.

And yes, I'm a hypocrit. Mostly, I try not to be; but show me someone that isn't one all the time, and I'll try even harder.

My response wasn't just rooted in this thread, but at this stage that's neither here nor there. There is no point making any long drawn out conflict over it, and so I will let it lie.

In fact, I think I should take a holiday from IIDB - a month or so away. It'll do me good - and probably do the board good, too! lol!

Well, there's not much more for me to say, except...

Ciao,
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