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Old 07-04-2003, 04:26 AM   #1
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Question Ex-Creationist Scientists

One fundie needs names and field of science of former creationists. How else could one believe that a creationist would step away from the Truth. I think that there must be some, but who?
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Didn't that guy Denton (the one who wrote a book, I think it was "a theory in crisis") eventually accept evolution?
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Didn't that guy Denton (the one who wrote a book, I think it was "a theory in crisis") eventually accept evolution?
Michael Denton, and yes, I gather he did. Can't remember the exact details, but I think Ed may have brought him up (only to, as 't were, choke on his own vomit ). Try a search on him at TO, or a simple Google.

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Glenn Morton is ex-ICR.
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I don't know if it counts for a whole step away from creationism, and I don't know if he's still a creationist or not, but Gerald Aardsma of the ICR had an issue about the age of the earth with his organisation. The ICR says the earth is from 6000 to 10,000 years old, and Aardsma was led, due to his observation of tree-ring data, to conclude that the earth is at least 12,000 years old. Due to observation of data, and never mind what the Bible clearly says - I regard this as an important step towards recognising evolution.

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http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/ce/2/part1.html
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Dr. Roger C. Wiens is an other example. Although, he is now more of an Old Earth creationist.

Radiometric Dating A Christian Perspective by Roger C. Wiens -- A resource paper of the American Scientific Affiliation
http://asa.calvin.edu/ASA/resources/Wiens.html
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I didn't know Roger had been a young earth type. I find it hard to believe. (I've met him a few times and know his work.)
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I didn't know Roger had been a young earth type. I find it hard to believe. (I've met him a few times and know his work.)
I am basing that on his earlier church affiliations, some of which are YEC on Statments of Faith doctrine.
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Thank you for the replies. If anyone knows more, then please, let me know.
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AndresDeLaHoz:
As far as I know, Denton never was a young-earth creationist (at least when he wrote books critical of evolution) (also see the rest of my post)

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....The ICR says the earth is from 6000 to 10,000 years old...
10,000 would be about their upper limit but it seems they lean more towards 6000 years.
At icr.org's Dr. John's Q&A's, part of John's answer to How Old is the Earth According to the Bible? is "...most likely close to 6000 years..."

Answers In Genesis has in its list of arguments which should definitely not be used [emphasis theirs]:
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‘There are gaps in the genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 so the Earth may be 10,000 years old or even more.’ This is not so. The language is clear that they are strict chronologies, especially because they give the age of the father at the birth of the next name in line. So the Earth is only about 6,000 years old. [emphasis added] See Biblical genealogies for exegetical proof.
Here is a chart of Bible genealogies that I created myself. It shows that Noah was born about 1056 years after Adam was created, and the Flood happened when Noah was 600, which was 1656 years after Adam was created.

from Answers in Genesis - The Date of Noah's Flood
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The Biblical data places the Flood at 2304 BC +/- 11 years.
Adam was created about 1656 years earlier... so based on that Answers in Genesis article, Adam would have been created at about 3960 BC. And the universe would be a few days younger.

BTW, I don't know about any ex-creationist scientists. Apparently many people studying science at universities give up their young earth beliefs... I did. If they do that then they are ex-creationists before they even become fully qualified scientists.
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