Wayne Delia

In this particular case, I am persuaded to agree with ex-xian. Sure, you've used the punctuation mark which indicates questions, but the way you've posed them is more in the style of rhetorical questions, which are intended to make a statement, rather than to expect an answer. Indeed, I had answered those questions of yours as if they were not rhetorical, and you failed to respond to my answers: approximately twenty years of dedicated Bible study - in English, as translated by the linguists of the various versions - and I have read the Bible cover to cover five times, twice as what one would consider a "born-again" Christian, once as a fence-sitting agnostic, and twice in the position of a strong atheist. Those answers seemed to run counter to the rhetorical statement you were making, which was essentially...

Asserting would have been more like "No one here has read the Bible at all so you don't know anything about it."

That was essentially the assertion behind your rhetorical questions.

But let's not complicate or confuse matters. I'll cover exclamation marks after you've mastered question marks - in about a month or two.

Your condescension is unbecoming and inappropriate. Rhetorical questions can, and often are, used to make a point or assert a position. If someone had never read the Bible all the way through, what would your line of reasoning conclude? The exact assertion which you claim you are not making. However, if someone like me provided answers which did not fit with your prejudicial stereotype, then those answers were either ignored or run away from.

WMD

Wayne Delia

You've *already* been asked. The questions I'm interested in are in my previous post, and they were reposted from my previous post which you also ignored. The ball's in your court, George: you may email me YOUR answers. I will keep them private, but will feel free to report to this forum if you fail to respond within, say, one week.

Here it would be a waste of my time and I don't go for 'grandstanding'.

Six-year-olds are usually enticed by alibis such as "I'd beat you up, but lucky for you I wore my good clothes!" I didn't realize that you were in that age group - sorry.

I don't blame you for running! Some questions are just too difficult to answer, and it's much harder here to change the subject, isn't it?

Six-year olds are usually enticed by accusations of "scary cat" or "so, you're running away". I didn't realize that you were in that age group - sorry. But I'm not.

So then what excuse are you offering to cover your refusal or inability to answer the simple questions I asked? What would be so embarrassing or "grandstanding" to give your answers in this forum?

You want answers? Seek them out.

I did. I asked you the questions directly. Only you can provide the answers to questions about what your interpretation of spiritual implications of your own surgery, and God's role in it. There's no other place I can go to get those answers. Unfortunately, you snipped the questions, and gave a lame excuse about "not granstanding."

Otherwise, as I said before, enjoy yourself while you can. I assure you, it'll be a lot sooner than you think.

It's even sooner than YOU think. I'm already enjoying myself!

You should try to take more care in sentence construction - your typical empty death threat wasn't too clear this time. To save time, perhaps you could copy and paste the following: "Worship my invisible sky-daddy, or He'll kick your ass!"

WMD

Abel Stable

Jorge- Up to seven pages now - why don't you just come out and admit that you're not interested in talking about anything?

Your responses have either been smartassed comments or claims that you're not being a smartass. Numerous people here have honestly tried to engage you in a meaningful discussion, but you have strongly resisted. You mention 31,000 contradictions you're aware of & promise to discuss only one. When people ask for it, you say you've already said it & refuse to restate or elaborate. If anyone posts a biblical question, you slither out of it and offer a smarmy reply.

Anyway, this is, as you stated, the core message & intent of your post:
You're fond of saying "opinion noted." Would you rather we all responded with that to your posts? There really isn't anything more to discuss.

If you want to discuss the Bible and try to show how it is worthy (since you have indicated that you have the knowledge & are able to do so) then either:
(1) start a new, specific thread, or
(2) begin here with expanding upon just one of your 31,000 examples.

If you don't want to have a discussion, please leave. You're not bringing anything new to the table and you're representing christianity poorly.

There are people here honestly interested in learning. You have professed to be more knowledgeble than many of us on the subject at hand - please, share your information with us. I'd like to learn something new.

Doctor X

Methinks he has descended to the "LA!LA!LA!IMNOTLISTENING!!LA!LA!LA!LA!" stage.

He will remain gone for a while and then return as if nothing has happened or, even more dishonest, he actually prevailed in the debate.

In the end he has merely confirmed the stereotype of the closed-mind. This is unfortunate. One can believe whatever one wants to believe, of course. However, one cannot simply expect others to share in this belief without evidence. Furthermore, one cannot belittle others because they believe differently based on the evidence.

--J.D.

Jorge

Great! My email is a matter of public record - contact me whenever you wish if you are one of these "people here honestly interested in learning".

Also, I have supplied a new thread with an example of an alleged Bible discrepancy so your request has been fulfilled.

Enjoy!

Jorge

Darwin26

Jorge, JORGE!

...........soooooo uhhhhhhhhhhh where is this "thread"?
anxiously waiting for that thread and i hope it's about you know what!

ex-xian

It's here, http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...hreadid=60093. Not that I'm advertising for him. I just think it's a great example of how not to win an argument. Just like this thread. It's amazing how he can ignore the posts that clearly show that he's wrong, but still acts like he won. Even the other xians here can't get through to him.

Doctor X

Well, half of my prediction proved correct . . . maybe that is worth $500,000 from the JREF.

--J.D.

Abel Stable

I just read the thread in question (on God sending she-bears to rescue Elisha from the clutches of mocking children). Well, so much for turn the other cheek- which is something that I always thought Jesus/God was always very big on. I guess God just doesnt like it when kids call his friends Baldy - thats enough to send him over the edge.

Doctor X

Oh ye of little faith. . . .

If you believe the apology, it was really "young men" who were merely mauled . . . so it is totally a-okay. . . .

--J.D.