Secular Pinoy

Leviticus 18:22 - You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act.

Diadectes

That's an Old Testament quote. As I understand it, most Christians (unless they are of the fundamentaliost variety) base their beliefs on the life and teachings of Jesus. Yes, I know you're probably going to quote Paul at me now, but Paul was a theologian and there's no rule that says you have to accept his interpretation of events. If I were a Christian (I'm not, because I simply cannot accept the supernatural baggage that comes with it, to say nothing of the vast moral problems, inconsistencies and contradictions) I'd assume it was Jesus that I should be paying attention to. In fact, that seems to me to be precisely the trap that so many Christians fall into - they forget this little thing called the Gospel.

Secular Pinoy

See my post above and the person I responded to, we were talking about anti-homosexuality in the bible. And most christians, fundamentalists and mainstream, use Paul quite a lot, so I don't understand your point. And the gospels are not exactly credible.

Diadectes

Sorry, you've got me confused now. What response are you talking about? All I can see is a tid-bit from Leviticus. I was just curious to know why you quoted this to Groovy Christian Monkey when s/he was making the point that not all Christians believe that homosexuality is a sin. Presumably GCM doesn't beleive everything in Leviticvus, nor doe s/he need to (as s/he is not a fundamentalist). Likewise it follows that GCM may not necessarily agree with Paul's pronouncements on the subject.

Diadectes

Apologies - Groovy Cosmic Monkey. See, this religion business really fucks with one's mind.

agnawstick

If you believe Jesus existed, and the four gospels were what he cared about, you can accept homosexuality.

Firstly, Jesus said one only need follow the 10 commandments, and his new one. Secondly, Paul had a personal hangup with sex in general. Why does Paul get any more credit, than say Peter, or James, or Benny Hinn, or Jesse Jackson for that matter?

I would like to see in the bible where it says that Paul's vision from Christ included Christ lecturing him on how monogomous homosexuality was wrong.

If I believed in the divinity of christ, I would tend to worry more about the Sermon on the Mount rather than the bug up Paul's butt.

JaeIsGod

Yeah , I wouldnt take Pauls writings on sex too seriously. He always seems to be somewhat bitter when it comes to sex. He probably didnt get much

cheetah

In response to the OP, I believe that in general for hermaphrodites, both sets of genitalia rarely, if ever, function. it is true that there are many cases of parents choosing which sex their child would be and that child later feeling like the opposite sex and wondering why until they are told of their hermaphroditic birth. I also don't think I agree with the parents choosing, because there is a lto of biology that goes into it that you cannot see or predict when the baby is very young. But, then again. are you increasing the stigma for that child if you raise it neutral gender (i.e. starting immediately after it is bron when people ask if its a boy or girl)? I don't know. It's tough. But, again, in regards to the OP, I don't think, practically, that you'd have to worry about it happening.

Secular Pinoy

Ok, let's take this step-by-step, GCM said: It would be more accurate to say that many Christians believe that the Bible condemns homosexuality in all its forms to which I responded with Lev 18:22. The christians that s/he was referring to do have a basis for believing that the bible condemns homosexuality.

//riot of disorder::

Wasn't there a verse in the bible that said that you couldn't approach the altar of god if you had damaged genitals? Maybe that applied to the hermies? And besides, hermaphordites are extremely rare. The chances of it happening are 1 in 250 million. I wouldn't want to be that parent...