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Fuct · 02-25-2002, 10:48 PM

I'd have to say Oklahoma but that's probably because I've lived here most of my life ..

Reasons:
*) We have the huge praying hands at Oral Roberts "University"

*) We have Steve Largent, Istook, and those other retarded legislators who blindly attempt to pass all sorts of insane christian coalition style laws.

*) We have disclaimers (can't remember exactly what they said) on science text books.. ugh.

*) Gay Pride banners aren't allowed on City Property but church banners are. Weird huh?

*) In Oklahoma City strip clubs the girls have to wear plastic wrap over their nipples.

*) Just about every sex act except missionary is prohibited by law. Hahaha .. that's stops us.

*) We have 3.2 beer

*) The "hardest" porn we have is of the cinimax style.

I used to live in Memphis and that place was pretty backwards too .. very racist city I thought.

-Fuct

Dark Jedi · 02-26-2002, 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by Fuct:

*) We have 3.2 beer

Heh, anytime I go visit my brother in OKC, I have to bring a case of Bud in from Texas (I go VIA I-40 since I have family in Amarillo, too) for him, or he won't let me in. Or so he says, I haven't tested the threat yet...

The closest thing to Oklahoma beer is tapwater from rusty pipes.

Don't you have to show an ID in Okieland to buy O'douls or other non-alcoholic beers too?

[ February 26, 2002: Message edited by: Dark Jedi ]

Doug · 02-26-2002, 05:59 PM

My vote goes to one of Oklahoma, Kansas, Mississppi or Alabama.

For a less hillbilly take, the state with the most fundamentalists with money is probably Texas, but it's so big and diverse that I don't think it really qualifies.

They do have a bunch of unbelievably expensive and huge "megachurches" though. Second Baptist in Houston has two campuses. One (the original campus) is in a fashionable part of west Houston, and they built a massive campus in Katy (western suburb) with a swimming pool, skating rink, tennis courts and much more. The pastor actually preaches at the original campus early Sunday morning, then travels by helicopter to the suburban campus to do another service.

Kansas might be a good choice for less hillbilly as well.

Sakpo · 02-26-2002, 09:57 PM

Unless your character is going to be a mormon don't go with Utah. If you want a really fundie state I'd pick Kansas personally, though California might be quite realistic (lots of fundies) plus since it's a diverse state there'd be plenty of other groups nearby for him to rage against.

voltaire321 · 02-27-2002, 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by Doug:
They do have a bunch of unbelievably expensive and huge "megachurches" though. Second Baptist in Houston has two campuses. One (the original campus) is in a fashionable part of west Houston, and they built a massive campus in Katy (western suburb) with a swimming pool, skating rink, tennis courts and much more. The pastor actually preaches at the original campus early Sunday morning, then travels by helicopter to the suburban campus to do another service.

Man don't get me started. In Houston we also have Lakewood Church. These guys were/are trying to lease out the Compaq center ( where the Houston rockets play ) for services. It is funny though, the Compaq center is also used for rock shows. I can just see the sign out front, "Tonight: Slayer, Tomorrow: Bible Thumpin' Evangelical Church Services".

I still think that we are less fundie than Oklahoma though. Except for a few TV commercials I don't encounter these people in real life, and they haven't got the state legislature in their pocket like the OK fundies have.

Doug · 02-27-2002, 08:50 AM

Voltaire,

I am very familiar with Houston as it's my hometown and my family all still lives there. I visit at least a couple of times per year.

If I understand the Lakewood situation, Houston is actually building a new sports arena for the Rockets and to attract an NHL team. This is being built somewhere downtown (probably near the soon to be renamed Astros stadium and Brown Convention Center).

Once this is complete, the Summit (I still can't call it "Compaq Center") will be pretty much empty. I could see it still used for concerts, but there wouldn't be any sports teams there.

The city was trying to figure out what to do with the place and that's when Lakewood proposed to sign a 30 year lease with the city to take it over and move their church there. The city agreed as long as Lakewood paid to remodel the building for their purposes.

Since then, the whole deal has been tied up in lawsuits. Various groups have been suing based on usage laws and deed restrictions on the building with the real underlying reason being separation of church and state. These groups think it's a violation for a city owned building to be leased to a church.

I personally think it's a hazy area for church/state separation. I start to think it's OK as long as there are no special favors done for a church group, the city's name isn't on anything and the lease is all for the one group (in other words, not used for anything but the church), then I start to think the arrangement does blur the line.'

What part of town do you live in anyway?

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02-25-2002, 10:48 PM	#31
Fuct Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 48	I'd have to say Oklahoma but that's probably because I've lived here most of my life .. Reasons: ) We have the huge praying hands at Oral Roberts "University" ) We have Steve Largent, Istook, and those other retarded legislators who blindly attempt to pass all sorts of insane christian coalition style laws. ) We have disclaimers (can't remember exactly what they said) on science text books.. ugh. ) Gay Pride banners aren't allowed on City Property but church banners are. Weird huh? ) In Oklahoma City strip clubs the girls have to wear plastic wrap over their nipples. ) Just about every sex act except missionary is prohibited by law. Hahaha .. that's stops us. ) We have 3.2 beer ) The "hardest" porn we have is of the cinimax style. I used to live in Memphis and that place was pretty backwards too .. very racist city I thought. -Fuct

02-26-2002, 05:59 PM	#33
Doug Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: New York, NY Posts: 629	My vote goes to one of Oklahoma, Kansas, Mississppi or Alabama. For a less hillbilly take, the state with the most fundamentalists with money is probably Texas, but it's so big and diverse that I don't think it really qualifies. They do have a bunch of unbelievably expensive and huge "megachurches" though. Second Baptist in Houston has two campuses. One (the original campus) is in a fashionable part of west Houston, and they built a massive campus in Katy (western suburb) with a swimming pool, skating rink, tennis courts and much more. The pastor actually preaches at the original campus early Sunday morning, then travels by helicopter to the suburban campus to do another service. Kansas might be a good choice for less hillbilly as well.

02-26-2002, 09:57 PM	#34
Sakpo Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Pacific Northwest (illegally occupied indigenous l Posts: 7,716	Unless your character is going to be a mormon don't go with Utah. If you want a really fundie state I'd pick Kansas personally, though California might be quite realistic (lots of fundies) plus since it's a diverse state there'd be plenty of other groups nearby for him to rage against.

02-27-2002, 08:50 AM	#36
Doug Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: New York, NY Posts: 629	Voltaire, I am very familiar with Houston as it's my hometown and my family all still lives there. I visit at least a couple of times per year. If I understand the Lakewood situation, Houston is actually building a new sports arena for the Rockets and to attract an NHL team. This is being built somewhere downtown (probably near the soon to be renamed Astros stadium and Brown Convention Center). Once this is complete, the Summit (I still can't call it "Compaq Center") will be pretty much empty. I could see it still used for concerts, but there wouldn't be any sports teams there. The city was trying to figure out what to do with the place and that's when Lakewood proposed to sign a 30 year lease with the city to take it over and move their church there. The city agreed as long as Lakewood paid to remodel the building for their purposes. Since then, the whole deal has been tied up in lawsuits. Various groups have been suing based on usage laws and deed restrictions on the building with the real underlying reason being separation of church and state. These groups think it's a violation for a city owned building to be leased to a church. I personally think it's a hazy area for church/state separation. I start to think it's OK as long as there are no special favors done for a church group, the city's name isn't on anything and the lease is all for the one group (in other words, not used for anything but the church), then I start to think the arrangement does blur the line.' What part of town do you live in anyway?

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