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sakrilege · 08-03-2003, 06:11 AM

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Since God created the earth, then we should be able to look at His creation, and determine it's age. After all, if God is truth, and He created the world, then the world will truthfully tell it's age when we examine it. Scientists examining the earth say that it is billions of years old, therefore that must be the truth...after all, God cannot lie.

Not only is the earth 4.5 billion years old... but the creation story in the book of Genesis is completely accurate. Answers In Creation is here to emphatically say, "You can be a Christian, and believe in an old earth."

This is an interesting site arguing against YECs.

08-03-2003, 06:40 AM

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after all, God cannot lie.

How do they know? After all, god is omnipotent = he can do what he likes.

sakrilege · 08-03-2003, 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by DMB
How do they know? After all, god is omnipotent = he can do what he likes.

And he did...

Gen 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Since Adam and Eve did NOT die on that day, then this can be considered a lie.

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Browsing the wedsite some more, the bookstore contains these authors:
Dr. Hugh Ross
William Dembski
Jim Schicatano
David G. Hagopian

Magus55 · 08-03-2003, 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by sakrilege
And he did...

Gen 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Since Adam and Eve did NOT die on that day, then this can be considered a lie.

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Browsing the wedsite some more, the bookstore contains these authors:
Dr. Hugh Ross
William Dembski
Jim Schicatano
David G. Hagopian

God can't lie, and that wasn't a lie.

Silent Dave · 08-03-2003, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by Magus55
God can't lie, and that wasn't a lie.

Yeah, sakrilege, you just have to interpret it correctly. You see, days back then were a thousand years long.

Oh no, wait, I mean that . . . when God said "day" he meant "era."

No, hang on, it's actually that . . . Adam and Eve DID die that very day -- just in a spiritual sense, not a physical sense.

Oh wait, it's actually . . . oh, drat.

Magus, what was the excuse this week? I just can't remember.

Dave

WinAce · 08-03-2003, 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by Magus55
God can't lie, and that wasn't a lie.

As an aside, do you want to debate the concordance of multiple radiometric dating methods with independent checks like the observed rate of seafloor spreading and plate movements, Magus?

tensorproduct · 08-03-2003, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
God can't lie, and that wasn't a lie.

Thanks for clearing that up, Magus55. It makes sense now.

Doubting Didymus · 08-03-2003, 03:24 PM

I thought the idea was that our heroes adam and eve were going to be immortal in the garden, and only became mortal after eating the thingy off the plant.

So god can't lie, but he can play clever little jokes.

winstonjen · 08-03-2003, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
God can't lie, and that wasn't a lie.

Of coooourrrrsee not, god merely bended the truth.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Kevbo · 08-03-2003, 04:44 PM

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Not only is the earth 4.5 billion years old, but the creation story in the book of Genesis is completely accurate...

...for varying definitions of "completely" and "accurate" such as "didn't archeology find a rock somewhere where there was supposed to be a temple?" and "Well, we still believe it."

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08-03-2003, 03:24 PM	#8
Doubting Didymus Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: East Coast. Australia. Posts: 5,455	I thought the idea was that our heroes adam and eve were going to be immortal in the garden, and only became mortal after eating the thingy off the plant. So god can't lie, but he can play clever little jokes.

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