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Old 09-14-2002, 05:47 AM   #21
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Unless scigirl and QueenOfSwords are involved, I trust.
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Old 09-14-2002, 06:40 AM   #22
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Unfortunately, what we mainly have here is DNAUnion wrestling with himself. It's not pretty, and I have to agree with RufusAtticus' judgement.
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Old 09-14-2002, 07:06 AM   #23
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DNAunion: This is something for seebs and pangloss/pantrog and others here to contemplate.

I was reading the latest Discover magazine last night and came across the statements I quote below. The article contrasts and compares two views: the "blank slate" and the "non-blank slate", and discusses how each influences morality as well as some misconceptions about how each influences morality.

I found these statements quite logical.

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"Regardless of IQ or physical strength or any other trait that might vary among people, all human beings can be assumed to have certain traits in common. No one likes being enslaved. No one likes being humiliated. No one likes being treated unfairly." (Steve Pinker, The Blank Slate, Discover, October 2002, p40)
DNAunion: And the author then uses this commonality to draw a moral principle.

So I wonder why seebs and others would see fit to try to humiliate me instead of simply trying to help.

Skim through Infidels and what does one find virtually every thread crammed full of? Attempts to humiliate the creationists and IDists (and even those skeptics that accept evolution but don't bow down and kiss Darwin's arse). What kind of moral example is that?

Yet that kind of demeaning behavior is much, much, much rarer from the Creationists and IDists.

Gee, no wonder I am confused about morals: so many "evolutionists" here display a lack of morals, failing to take into consideration the simple facts that "No one likes being humiliated. No one likes being treated unfairly."

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Old 09-14-2002, 08:59 AM   #24
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<strong>Gee, no wonder I am confused about morals: so many "evolutionists" here display a lack of morals, failing to take into consideration the simple facts that "No one likes being humiliated. No one likes being treated unfairly."</strong>
I think whiny pity-parties are an inappropriate use of the E/C forum. I'm closing this one off.
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