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Valentine Pontifex · 01-11-2002, 07:43 PM

Remember that immortal invertebrate a few months back; well here is something that beats it:

<a href="http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWeirdNews0201/11_shark-ap.html" target="_blank">http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWeirdNews0201/11_shark-ap.html</a>

Assuming that the good folks at Mutual of Omaha have not screwed up (or "farked" up -- saw this listed at <a href="http://www.fark.com" target="_blank">www.fark.com</a> ) this could make a very interesting event.

Maybe this should not super-surprising since parthenogenetic organism have evolved from non-parthenogenetic populations in several taxa.

Le Jongleur · 01-11-2002, 07:55 PM

That's seriously cool. I've been away for a while, so a lame pop-culture reference is an inauspicious way to return to the board, but. . .

Didn't this happen in Jurassic Park? They had only cloned female dinosaurs, but they somehow managed to reproduce. Right?

tronvillain · 01-11-2002, 09:17 PM

Yes, but that was because they inexplicably mixed in DNA from a frog capable of changing sex - some of the velociraptors became male.

Prometevsberg · 01-12-2002, 08:54 AM

Am I the only one seeing a "Sphyrna tiburo crucifix" as I read this?
see <a href="http://www.billfishtacklesupply.com/Sharks/ham56.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.billfishtacklesupply.com/Sharks/ham56.jpg</a>
and imagine it on a cross..

MrDarwin · 01-12-2002, 01:53 PM

There are several species of parthenogenetic lizards. In some of these species, there are no males known at all and thus there is no sex at all; the females basically clone themselves.

Edited to add a link:

<a href="http://www.discovery.com/exp/lizards/wodads.html" target="_blank">Lizards without dads</a>

[ January 12, 2002: Message edited by: MrDarwin ]</p>

Boro Nut · 01-14-2002, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LordValentine:
<strong>Virgin Birth Observed in Sharks</strong>

Don't tell me, I was there!! Isn't it just the best nightclub you have ever been to?

01-11-2002, 07:43 PM	#1
Valentine Pontifex Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orion Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 3,092	Virgin Birth Observed in Sharks? Remember that immortal invertebrate a few months back; well here is something that beats it: <a href="http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWeirdNews0201/11_shark-ap.html" target="_blank">http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWeirdNews0201/11_shark-ap.html</a> Assuming that the good folks at Mutual of Omaha have not screwed up (or "farked" up -- saw this listed at <a href="http://www.fark.com" target="_blank">www.fark.com</a> ) this could make a very interesting event. Maybe this should not super-surprising since parthenogenetic organism have evolved from non-parthenogenetic populations in several taxa.

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01-11-2002, 07:55 PM	#2
Le Jongleur Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: New York Posts: 33	That's seriously cool. I've been away for a while, so a lame pop-culture reference is an inauspicious way to return to the board, but. . . Didn't this happen in Jurassic Park? They had only cloned female dinosaurs, but they somehow managed to reproduce. Right?

01-11-2002, 09:17 PM	#3
tronvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,658	Yes, but that was because they inexplicably mixed in DNA from a frog capable of changing sex - some of the velociraptors became male.

01-12-2002, 08:54 AM	#4
Prometevsberg Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 86	Am I the only one seeing a "Sphyrna tiburo crucifix" as I read this? see <a href="http://www.billfishtacklesupply.com/Sharks/ham56.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.billfishtacklesupply.com/Sharks/ham56.jpg</a> and imagine it on a cross..

01-12-2002, 01:53 PM	#5
MrDarwin Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 4,140	There are several species of parthenogenetic lizards. In some of these species, there are no males known at all and thus there is no sex at all; the females basically clone themselves. Edited to add a link: <a href="http://www.discovery.com/exp/lizards/wodads.html" target="_blank">Lizards without dads</a> [ January 12, 2002: Message edited by: MrDarwin ]</p>

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