Doubting Didymus

Thank you kindly. I was curious as it happens.

ex-xian

Don't mention it...or do...whatever you prefer.

Duck!

I read that Hovind quote and went straight to my Concise Oxford English Dictionary :

Universe : [French univers from Latin universum, neut. of universus 'combined into one, whole', from UNI- + versus, past part. of vertere 'turn']

So did Hovind invent that definition off the top of his head or what?


Duck!

Rochs

I also grew up as a Seventh-Day Adventist, and went to their private schools until asked not to return half-way through my junior high school year.

What I was taught while in the church was an issue side-stepped during my academics.

My sister is currently studying for her Master's at one of their universities, and her husband (actually, a fairly reasonable fellow discounting his chosen vocation) is employed by the General Conference. But is exceedingly trying to discuss this type of matters with them. It seems that they have boughten into almost every Hovind-esque / Behe argument that justifies their 6-day creation stoy.

Oh well. I believe them to be happy despite being mislead by their theology.

I credit my "Wow" moment from them, though I cannot remember the specifics. The sentiment I got from them was that the individual(s?) that proprosed plate tetonics were misunderstood by the then scientific community at large: somehow an inappropriate number of zero's were added to the suggested time-line that such geological activity could have taken place in, a mistake that has yet to have been remedied to this day - if only geologist recalibrated their time-lines they would see that the Earth is only 10,000-6,000 years old.

And that was her refutation of evolution.


The good news j-ogenes is that not all Seventh-Day Adventists are that close-minded concerning evolution. I've met more than my fair share of "closet evo's" among their community, though they tend to be of the Kenneth (sp) Miller sort, despite the "party line". And yeah, to other's, I'm not trying to excuse 7-Day A's influence concerning YEC, 6-Day creationism issues in the public's mind.

Roland98

Just saw this as a newbie's sig on another forum:

Pure genius--placing your ignorance and utter disdain for reality in your sig is like a red light saying, "Please, mock me!"

Beleg_Strongbow

Yeah, especially since it has a picture of a sausage right below the word "Baloney"

villainess

I don't know that it is the single dumbest thing I ever heard, but my decidedly-not-a-fundy and normally-pretty-sharp boss explained to me once that there was no point believing evolution or anything else because eventually science would just discover some other evidence and we'd all have to change our opinions again.

It's difficult to recapture the flavor of the conversation, but my suspicion is that someone tried to explain Kuhn's Structure of Scientific Revolutions to him while they were both stoned.

the_villainess

pangloss

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but at the HomeSchool debate baord, a cretin dismissed moleular phylogenetic studies by claiming that (paraphrased):

Humans share many of their genes with dirt. Does that mean we are related to dirt, too?

caravelair

ha ha. i think i've heard someone say that before! i think maybe i'll do my masters in dirt genetics.

Doubting Didymus

Has the Dirt Genome Project been granted its funding yet?