Radorth

I'll take it I have won the point, and my prediction was accurate, since my question was hypothetical. But few atheists try to answer it, which I think proves my suspicion that most will be eternally disobedient no matter what they find.

I'm afraid there's more than two Rhea. As usual you move from intelligent discussion to personal attacks and assertions with no back up.

Rad

Starboy

Radorth, if it will make you feel better think of me as inane (as if you could do otherwise.) Incidentally you make my point regarding Christianity.

Starboy

Rhea

Just for you, my sweet. Only for you. No one else inspires me as you do.

I like to make sure you keep doing what you're doing. It holds a FABULOUS mirror up to Christianity, you know.

You're welcome, darling.

Radorth

No I said to be a good God, he has to be just. Justice demands eternal punishment in the case of those who rebel eternally. You're just avoiding the issue.

A useless, off-issue point. All children are saved for one thing. For another, people can be saved after they die if they will give up pride and rebellion which they develop later in life (if you like).

You are totally misquoting me, but I can understand why. Your theory is in serious trouble now. But I suppose if you heap enough inane responses together, some folks will buy your leaps of logic.

Rad

Nowhere357

No, I said a good god would not punish people for eternity.
You agreed god punishes people for eternity.
Therefore your god is not a good god.
"Rebel eternally" is a new concept to for me. I would say that to "rebel" is an act of a living person. Hard to "rebel" when one is dead. Maybe you should explain this concept.

That's twice you've accused me of avoiding my own issue. I wonder just what exactly you think the "issue" is?

I assumed that by "original sin" you meant we are born guilty. I'm glad to hear you don't think children go to hell.

Perhaps you would define "original sin", and provide support for the assertion "All children are saved."

A useful, on-issue point, actually. My issue, so the determination of whether a point is "on", is up to me. I'll decide whether I find something useful.

Are you saying we carry pride and rebellion with us after we die, and then can give them up? What a strange concept. Can you provide support?

I had said: "I would think murder, theft, etc. would be considered sinful, but by your definition, those acts are not sinful."

I'll concede this point, because your definition:

... is so imprecise and ambiguous, you could claim it means just about anything.

My theory is that a good god would not punish people for eternity. If my theory is in trouble, that would mean a good god WOULD punish people for eternity.

In that case, the word "good" means cruel, sadistic, unforgiving, unempathic, viscious, demented, sick, violent, etc.. IOW "bad".

Surely you don't claim "good" means "bad".

Well, if "good" means "bad", then "inane" becomes "meaningful", while "leaps of logic" refers to " sound reasoning skills".

So, thanks!