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Origian · 12-08-2002, 11:46 PM

I remember reading this several years ago, and was wondering if anything came of this...

<a href="http://www.ordination.org/proof.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ordination.org/proof.htm</a>

Doesn't make much sense to me - how on earth can you equivicate psychology with space-time?!?!?

Oxymoron · 12-09-2002, 02:57 AM

I haven't heard such quackery since a bread van crashed into the local duck pond.

Quote:

<strong>Since Gravity is the central physical theory of all of science, we can allay any qualms whatsoever that in fact, we have discovered the scientific proof of God</strong>

Gravity is the least understood force. If this is the pivotal part of the "argument", I think we can safely ignore the rest.

abe smith · 12-09-2002, 05:54 AM

OXY... was that the bread-van (in Montreal) which contained (some of) all the loaves which the mad bishop of Montreal used to consecrate (:make into the Sacrament) as he wandered about the streets there? Lucky ducks.

12-09-2002, 07:33 AM

I don't understand how the size and weight of a man can be proof of God. Nothing depends on the size and weight of our bodies, so what's so great if everyone achieves their fullest?

ExChild · 12-09-2002, 08:48 AM

Don't worry if you don't understand, DH, I don't think it's supposed to make sense.

Consider your source: if you click around on the home page of that link you can even send someone a Christmas gift certificate for Bible Ordination!

It looks like a scam or something.

Merry merry.

12-09-2002, 09:28 AM

In principle God cannot be established to exist by the scientific method, I would be quite confident that this person fails in his attempted proof.

I admit that I don't understand his proof, but hey, that's what a priori argumentation is all about.

Keith Russell · 12-09-2002, 09:44 AM

Greetings:

Yes, utter nonsense.

Keith.

Defiant Heretic · 12-09-2002, 04:22 PM

Quote:

The discovery begins with a simple fact of life that is only clearly known and comprehended by people who already "know something" about God.

Paraphrased:
If you know that God exists then you can understand that the argument is proof of God's existence.

Logical Fallacy: Circular Reasoning.
Argument invalid.

[ December 09, 2002: Message edited by: Defiant Heretic ]</p>

Bumble Bee Tuna · 12-09-2002, 05:43 PM

Well, here we see where the Catholic priests can claim precedent...This proof must be valid!

-B

Jobar · 12-09-2002, 07:25 PM

Hello Origian- if anyone posted that argument here as a serious attempt to prove God, I'd send it to Rants&Raves in nothing flat. Utter nonsense. I've seen various similar ones from Muslims, too, claiming to prove Allah "scientifically".

12-08-2002, 11:46 PM	#1
Origian Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: A cave. On Mars. Posts: 36	Scientific Proof of God I remember reading this several years ago, and was wondering if anything came of this... <a href="http://www.ordination.org/proof.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ordination.org/proof.htm</a> Doesn't make much sense to me - how on earth can you equivicate psychology with space-time?!?!?

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12-09-2002, 05:54 AM	#3
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	OXY... was that the bread-van (in Montreal) which contained (some of) all the loaves which the mad bishop of Montreal used to consecrate (:make into the Sacrament) as he wandered about the streets there? Lucky ducks.

12-09-2002, 07:33 AM	#4
Deistic Heretic Guest Posts: n/a	I don't understand how the size and weight of a man can be proof of God. Nothing depends on the size and weight of our bodies, so what's so great if everyone achieves their fullest?

12-09-2002, 08:48 AM	#5
ExChild Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Jackson, MS Posts: 18	Don't worry if you don't understand, DH, I don't think it's supposed to make sense. Consider your source: if you click around on the home page of that link you can even send someone a Christmas gift certificate for Bible Ordination! It looks like a scam or something. Merry merry.

12-09-2002, 09:28 AM	#6
Synaesthesia Guest Posts: n/a	In principle God cannot be established to exist by the scientific method, I would be quite confident that this person fails in his attempted proof. I admit that I don't understand his proof, but hey, that's what a priori argumentation is all about.

12-09-2002, 09:44 AM	#7
Keith Russell Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Overland Park, Kansas Posts: 1,336	Greetings: Yes, utter nonsense. Keith.

12-09-2002, 05:43 PM	#9
Bumble Bee Tuna Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Middletown, CT Posts: 7,333	Well, here we see where the Catholic priests can claim precedent...This proof must be valid! -B

12-09-2002, 07:25 PM	#10
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	Hello Origian- if anyone posted that argument here as a serious attempt to prove God, I'd send it to Rants&Raves in nothing flat. Utter nonsense. I've seen various similar ones from Muslims, too, claiming to prove Allah "scientifically".

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