dost

Hi folks,

I will be extremely grateful for a reply here. I have read that the majority of scholars consider the pastoral epistles to be non-Pauline, written some time after Paul by someone using his name. The reasons which have led to most scholars taking this position are the vacabulary of the pastorals, developed church order etc...

There are, however, certain conservative scholars who have mounted a ferocious defence of the pastorals, criticising vehemently the reasons which have led most scholars to confidently conclude that the pastorals are post-Pauline. I have been unable to come across any responses to the counter arguments raised by these conservative scholars. Can someone pass some links to papers where the conservative arguments have been criticised, or perhaps name some references which contain arguments responding to their points?

Secondly, I was wondering if any members here have access to the following books:

1) Raymond E. Brown's "Intro. to the NT"

2) Interpreter's One-Volume Commentary On The Bible Including The Apocrypha, With General Articles (Abingdon Press, 1971).

If anyone has the above books, would it be possible for you to send me some minor passages from them? If yes, I will inform you what passages I require.

My local library does not have these references, and if I order them via the library (they get the books from the British Library) its gonna take something like a months time, or more.

I recently placed some order through amazon for some books and am thus unable to purchase the above due to money shortage.

I will be extremely grateful for anyones assistance.

Thanks folks, and happy new year.

dost.

Peter Kirby

It is unfortunate that there is less interaction with the critics who favor authenticity than there might be since this has been considered a "settled issue" for a long time, since circa Martin Dibelius' commentary. Scholars don't get rewarded enough for defending mainstream opinion (against critiques from either extreme).

I would be happy to look up some references for you in Brown's Intro.

dost

Hi Mr. Kirby,

Thanks for your reply, I just sent you a message containing the info I am looking for. Thanks again for your offer of assistance.

If any members do have the second reference I mentioned, then all what I require from it is the context of the following passage:

Interpreter's One-Volume Commentary On The Bible Including The Apocrypha, With General Articles (Abingdon Press, 1971):

"... The right of elders to an adequate wage is supported by an appeal to the OT (Deut. 25:4; I Cor. 9:9) and to Christian tradition (f. Matt. 10:10; Luke 10:7; I Cor. 9:14.) It may be that the author thinks of his source for the 2nd saying as scripture also; since the EXACT WORDS appear in Luke 10:7 SOME INTERPRETERS BELIEVE THAT HE KNEW THAT GOSPEL AS SCRIPTURE." p. 887

Thats all. I am sure the passage does not stop there. Its not available in my library (in fact I checked at least 4 libraries in and around my area), but no luck.

not a theist

This passage is in the commentary by Eric Lane Titus on I Tim.