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04-10-2003, 06:55 PM

Why are atheists always ganged up on? If not by a christian, by a jew. If not by a jew, it's by a Muslim. For once I would like to see a christian vs. muslim debate or muslim vs. jew or christian vs. jew. I'd love to see how each side responds to the all too common question begging sort of theist arguments.

I'd love to see a christian respond to a muslim's, "well i'm right 'cause the koran says so" - or vice versa.

That's a train wreck I'd be willing to pay good money to watch!

Any chance the Sec Web will host a "theist vs. theist" debate?

(Perhaps I should have posted this in the feeback section, but I'd like to hear what posters have to say about this.)

04-10-2003, 07:08 PM

Christian: I'm right 'cause the bible says so. See chapter X verse Y.

Muslim: No, I'm right 'cause the Koran says so. See chapter X verse y.

Christian: Well, the bible says that the koran is wrong. See chapter x verse y.

Muslim: Well, the bible is wrong 'cause the koran says so. See chapter x verse y.

Wouldn't this be quite a sight?

Jobar · 04-10-2003, 07:52 PM

Ask and ye shall receive, Brother Fred! We do sometimes have such Donnybrooks as this here at Internet Infidels, even though you might think they would be willing to 'team up' when they come here. Nope...

04-10-2003, 08:04 PM

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Ask and ye shall receive, Brother Fred! We do sometimes have such Donnybrooks as this here at Internet Infidels, even though you might think they would be willing to 'team up' when they come here. Nope...

Thanx, I'll check it out.

sandlewood · 04-10-2003, 09:34 PM

I think the Christians probably believe the Muslims are mostly correct except that they just slightly missed the target---they don't realize that the god they are worshipping is really Yahweh. They are not bad, just a little off the mark.

Whereas atheists are totally culpable.

Hawkingfan · 04-11-2003, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by sandlewood
I think the Christians probably believe the Muslims are mostly correct except that they just slightly missed the target---they don't realize that the god they are worshipping is really Yahweh. They are not bad, just a little off the mark.

Whereas atheists are totally culpable.

But since Yaweh says in the Christian bible you cannot get to heaven without Christ, I don't see why Yaweh would say the following in the Koran:

"They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of ALLAH, and (they take as their Lord) christ, the son of mary; yet they were commanded to worship but one god: there is no god but one god: there is no god but he. Praise and glory to Him: (far is he) from having the partners they associate(with him). (At-Touba 9:31)

Jobar · 04-11-2003, 09:03 AM

Sandlewood, that thread I linked to is actually Catholics vs. Protestants, with some indescribeable weirdness thrown in (Amos took a large part.) Quoting myself, from pg. 5 of that thread-

"My imaginary, unevidenced, ideosyncratic and individually-interpreted version of an invisible daddy can beat up your imaginary, unevidenced, ideosyncratic and individually-interpreted version of an invisible daddy! Nyah nyah nyah!"

04-10-2003, 06:55 PM	#1
Brother Fred Guest Posts: n/a	theist vs. theist - any time soon? Why are atheists always ganged up on? If not by a christian, by a jew. If not by a jew, it's by a Muslim. For once I would like to see a christian vs. muslim debate or muslim vs. jew or christian vs. jew. I'd love to see how each side responds to the all too common question begging sort of theist arguments. I'd love to see a christian respond to a muslim's, "well i'm right 'cause the koran says so" - or vice versa. That's a train wreck I'd be willing to pay good money to watch! Any chance the Sec Web will host a "theist vs. theist" debate? (Perhaps I should have posted this in the feeback section, but I'd like to hear what posters have to say about this.)

04-10-2003, 07:08 PM	#2
Brother Fred Guest Posts: n/a	train wreck i'd be willing to pay good money to watch Christian: I'm right 'cause the bible says so. See chapter X verse Y. Muslim: No, I'm right 'cause the Koran says so. See chapter X verse y. Christian: Well, the bible says that the koran is wrong. See chapter x verse y. Muslim: Well, the bible is wrong 'cause the koran says so. See chapter x verse y. Wouldn't this be quite a sight?

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04-10-2003, 07:52 PM	#3
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	Ask and ye shall receive, Brother Fred! We do sometimes have such Donnybrooks as this here at Internet Infidels, even though you might think they would be willing to 'team up' when they come here. Nope...

04-10-2003, 09:34 PM	#5
sandlewood Regular Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: San Jose, CA, USA Posts: 264	I think the Christians probably believe the Muslims are mostly correct except that they just slightly missed the target---they don't realize that the god they are worshipping is really Yahweh. They are not bad, just a little off the mark. Whereas atheists are totally culpable.

04-11-2003, 09:03 AM	#7
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	Sandlewood, that thread I linked to is actually Catholics vs. Protestants, with some indescribeable weirdness thrown in (Amos took a large part.) Quoting myself, from pg. 5 of that thread- "My imaginary, unevidenced, ideosyncratic and individually-interpreted version of an invisible daddy can beat up your imaginary, unevidenced, ideosyncratic and individually-interpreted version of an invisible daddy! Nyah nyah nyah!"

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