Bill

I agree, and I'm sorry that galiel can't seem to see the difference.

I began in an attempt to try to communicate with galiel in order to see if he had anything of value to offer. I tried to meet his objections with facts. He characterizes my presentations as elitist and defensive. Well, he is the one who attacked, so why shouldn't I attempt to defend?

Its only when communication ceases that the battle is lost. Thats where we are now. We won't roll over and play dead to galiel's satisfaction (not surprisingly), and he feels that if he can't get his way on every point, he needs to bolt for the door. Well, we've had other users here with that sort of attitude, and it generally turns out really bad if we try the path of appeasement. So, we won't.

Sorry, galiel, I tried, but my best was never good enough for you. Good bye.

== Bill

dogon3

Yes, I too see advantages to there existing two rather than one PAC. If those who run one of the two make a misstep in their calculations of how to approach the issue or the lawmakers, the other has another opportunity to save the issue.