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Starspun · 07-31-2002, 05:14 AM

<a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/787720.asp?0dm=C15MT" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.com/news/787720.asp?0dm=C15MT</a>

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Scientists believe the lions would have reared their young in a pouch like other marsupials.

Is this an example of evolution or an extinct species? Sounds like evolution to me...macroevolution.

Starspun · 07-31-2002, 06:57 AM

<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20020731/sc_nm/australia_fossils_dc_1" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20020731/sc_nm/australia_fossils_dc_1</a>

This story is a bit more indepth on the subject. It sounds very exciting.

Darwin's Finch · 07-31-2002, 07:04 AM

2002 is shaping up as a remarkable year for fossil finds. It must really suck to be a creationist these days.

Godless Dave · 07-31-2002, 07:05 AM

Nah, you just claim the new finds cause big problems for the theory of evolution.

Kosh · 07-31-2002, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by Starspun:
<strong> Scientists believe the lions would have reared their young in a pouch like other marsupials </strong>

Maybe the pouch was used to carry Koala-snacks for long trips...

Queen of Swords · 07-31-2002, 07:13 AM

For future worldbuilding reference... are pouches always on the animal's midsection or can they be located in other places?

Duvenoy · 07-31-2002, 07:25 AM

Fascinating finds.

The real excitment is in finding the remains in such excellent condition. After all, the 'lion' is not a new species and indeed, it is not really a lion (common names suck), nor any kind of cat. It is a large, carnivorus marsupial that might have resembled a big cat. Australia is the place to find marsupials, fossil, and still warm. I think that much will be learned from these discoveries.

QoS: Marsupial pouches are all on the belly and, contrary to every cartoon I've ever seen, only the females have them.

doov

Starspun · 07-31-2002, 07:30 AM

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It is a large, carnivorus marsupial that might have resembled a big cat.

Was this find a cousin of the koala bear? Is there anything here i can use to rub in nonevolutionists' faces?

Duvenoy · 07-31-2002, 08:40 AM

Indeed there is, my Starspun friend!

This creature, as a marsupial, is much closer related to koalas than to any feline. Indeed, it is an ancient, country cousin to our own opossum, it's self a remarkable animal in that it is the only marsupial to be found so far away from Australia.

To carry the matter a little further, it is also related, distantly, to even the tiny marsupial shrews.

For better info, I'd suggest a Google on "Marsupial."

doov

Mageth · 07-31-2002, 08:52 AM

Check out <a href="http://www.naturalworlds.org/" target="_blank">naturalworlds.org</a> for lots of information on Thylacoleos (marsupial lions) and Thylacenes (marsupial wolves).

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07-31-2002, 06:57 AM	#2
Starspun Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 334	<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20020731/sc_nm/australia_fossils_dc_1" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20020731/sc_nm/australia_fossils_dc_1</a> This story is a bit more indepth on the subject. It sounds very exciting.

07-31-2002, 07:04 AM	#3
Darwin's Finch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Gardnerville, NV Posts: 666	2002 is shaping up as a remarkable year for fossil finds. It must really suck to be a creationist these days.

07-31-2002, 07:05 AM	#4
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	Nah, you just claim the new finds cause big problems for the theory of evolution.

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Queen of Swords Contributor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada. Finally. Posts: 10,155	For future worldbuilding reference... are pouches always on the animal's midsection or can they be located in other places?

07-31-2002, 07:25 AM	#7
Duvenoy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Just another hick from the sticks. Posts: 1,108	Fascinating finds. The real excitment is in finding the remains in such excellent condition. After all, the 'lion' is not a new species and indeed, it is not really a lion (common names suck), nor any kind of cat. It is a large, carnivorus marsupial that might have resembled a big cat. Australia is the place to find marsupials, fossil, and still warm. I think that much will be learned from these discoveries. QoS: Marsupial pouches are all on the belly and, contrary to every cartoon I've ever seen, only the females have them. doov

07-31-2002, 08:40 AM	#9
Duvenoy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Just another hick from the sticks. Posts: 1,108	Indeed there is, my Starspun friend! This creature, as a marsupial, is much closer related to koalas than to any feline. Indeed, it is an ancient, country cousin to our own opossum, it's self a remarkable animal in that it is the only marsupial to be found so far away from Australia. To carry the matter a little further, it is also related, distantly, to even the tiny marsupial shrews. For better info, I'd suggest a Google on "Marsupial." doov

07-31-2002, 08:52 AM	#10
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Check out <a href="http://www.naturalworlds.org/" target="_blank">naturalworlds.org</a> for lots of information on Thylacoleos (marsupial lions) and Thylacenes (marsupial wolves).

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