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Valentine Pontifex · 02-07-2002, 06:15 PM

I know that there is a related thread already, but I thought that this resourse deserves the attention that a new thread can give it.

<a href="http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/news/2002/ZZ/693_ncse_asks_discovery_institute_2_7_2002.asp" target="_blank">NCSE link</a>

This is a short article on the idiot screw-up by Wells attacking what he had not read by the National Center for Science Education written by "Gish" (the good one). Keep this URL handy for when Wells is presented as a quality scholar.
And keep it handy for when the creationists start repeating that Wells said....

I think we have a new slogan. People someone say "Bullfrog" to Gish (the not so good one). Now we can say "Where's the Shrimp?" to Wells.

{edited by theyeti to shorten link}

[ February 07, 2002: Message edited by: theyeti ]

ps418 · 02-07-2002, 06:41 PM

Interesting. How stupid do you have to be to issue a press release disputing research that you've never even read? This makes Wells look really, really silly.

And this is the cutting edge of the ID movement?

Patrick

notto · 02-07-2002, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by LordValentine:


<a href="http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/news/2002/ZZ/693_ncse_asks_discovery_institute_2_7_2002.asp" target="_blank">NCSE link</a>

This is a short article on the idiot screw-up by Wells attacking what he had not read by the National Center for Science Education written by "Gish" (the good one). Keep this URL handy for when Wells is presented as a quality scholar.
And keep it handy for when the creationists start repeating that Wells said....

Send it to the Ohio Board of Education.

<a href="http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/news/news02/feb02/1069851.html" target="_blank">Experts to weigh in on science standards</a>

The Ohio standards committee yesterday agreed to invite two supporters of evolution and two advocates of intelligent design to a panel discussion before the board's March meeting.

The intelligent-design experts are Jonathan Wells, a molecular and cell biologist from the University of California-Berkeley, and Jody F. Sjogren, a medical illustrator and founder of the Intelligent Design Network in Kansas City.

Presenting the evolutionist view will be Lawrence M. Kraus, a theoretical physicist from Case Western Reserve University, and Kenneth R. Miller, a biology professor at Brown University.

Dr.GH · 02-07-2002, 08:12 PM

I really like "Where's the shrimp."

pug846 · 02-07-2002, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notto:

Presenting the evolutionist view will be Lawrence M. Kraus, a theoretical physicist from Case Western Reserve University, and Kenneth R. Miller, a biology professor at Brown University.

Just curious - why the hell is a theoretical physicist presenting the "Evolutionist" view? There weren't any biologists around? I would expect this type of thing from the ID crowd...Perhaps I'm missing something here?

hezekiah jones · 02-07-2002, 11:40 PM

I think the proposed revisions to the science standards in Ohio have broader implications than simply objections to biological evolution, referring as they do to "origins science."

We all know what an effective advocate Kenneth Miller is. As for <a href="http://www.phys.cwru.edu/faculty/index.php?krauss" target="_blank">Lawrence M. Krauss</a>, according to his C.V. and his publications, he sounds like just the man for the job.

02-07-2002, 06:15 PM	#1
Valentine Pontifex Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orion Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 3,092	Where's the Shrimp? I know that there is a related thread already, but I thought that this resourse deserves the attention that a new thread can give it. <a href="http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/news/2002/ZZ/693_ncse_asks_discovery_institute_2_7_2002.asp" target="_blank">NCSE link</a> This is a short article on the idiot screw-up by Wells attacking what he had not read by the National Center for Science Education written by "Gish" (the good one). Keep this URL handy for when Wells is presented as a quality scholar. And keep it handy for when the creationists start repeating that Wells said.... I think we have a new slogan. People someone say "Bullfrog" to Gish (the not so good one). Now we can say "Where's the Shrimp?" to Wells. {edited by theyeti to shorten link} [ February 07, 2002: Message edited by: theyeti ]</p>

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02-07-2002, 06:41 PM	#2
ps418 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Louisville, KY, USA Posts: 1,840	Interesting. How stupid do you have to be to issue a press release disputing research that you've never even read? This makes Wells look really, really silly. And this is the cutting edge of the ID movement? Patrick

02-07-2002, 08:12 PM	#4
Dr.GH Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Dana Point, Ca, USA Posts: 2,115	I really like "Where's the shrimp."

02-07-2002, 11:40 PM	#6
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	I think the proposed revisions to the science standards in Ohio have broader implications than simply objections to biological evolution, referring as they do to "origins science." We all know what an effective advocate Kenneth Miller is. As for <a href="http://www.phys.cwru.edu/faculty/index.php?krauss" target="_blank">Lawrence M. Krauss</a>, according to his C.V. and his publications, he sounds like just the man for the job.

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