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Sakpo · 02-11-2003, 05:45 PM

Secular Elation,

My words can't express how glad I am that you went to the hospital, lived, and don't sound like you're permanently physically damaged. Your family's reaction is a very strong signal that they love you very much and care about you (of course, loving relatives could have reacted in different ways, I just think yours reacted excellently and in a clearly loving manner, that's all I meant).

lunachick · 02-11-2003, 06:29 PM

A deep sigh of relief from me, too.

I've been thinking about you all day, hoping you are alright. Thinking about my own "hiccup" not so long ago, too - and how overwhelming such feelings are. Like LadyShea said - the pain you are in is outweighing your coping mechanisms, and so we need to find new support, and new ways of coping.

I have to go to counselling, too. I start on the 7th March - so, remember, you are not alone.

Oh, I'm so relieved! I just got home from school, and raced to this thread to see if anyone had any word from you. It's great that YOU are the one bringing new word.

Best of luck, SE. As cliche as this may sound - today is the first day of the rest of your life. Make it good.

trientalis · 02-11-2003, 06:42 PM

I'm glad you're alive, Secular Elation. Keep it that way.

Just Another Infidel · 02-11-2003, 08:48 PM

S.E.,

I'm relieved to hear that you are OK. It sounds like your family is supportive. Consider yourself fortunate to have them.

Kick back awhile. Sort things out. Figure out what's really important to you. Learn to be a little selfish.

Go into the couseling with an open mind. Surely there will be some good stuff to take away from it.

I'm sure it's a drag to face your family after this episode, but I'm also sure it will be easier for you to deal with them than for them to deal with your death.

I'm really out of my depth here, but if you ever think the opinion/advice of an ex-military graybeard might be of any value, get in touch.

I'll never cease to be amazed at how a bunch of people who've never met face to face can get so attached to each other! F***ing amazing!

JAI

Colander of Truth · 02-11-2003, 09:51 PM

I might as well add my statement of relief.

Having had my dad and grandfather succeed with their attempts, let me tell you how much I rejoice in my own failure as I do yours.

Certainly I am not going to be your therapist; essentially, you are, with someone's help. Go into your therapy with the thought of gaining something from it, however small.

If I can recommend a book, ask your therapist if "I don't want to talk about it," is relevant to your situation.

-Bob

echidna · 02-11-2003, 10:11 PM

Jeez Sec, good to hear. Look, just trust a bunch of us here, that no matter how bad or impossible things seem now, if you can hang in there, things get better, much better.

Now, don�t ever � ever � ever � do it again.

August Spies · 02-11-2003, 10:40 PM

With the others, I am glad to see you are ok. and dont' do it again!

anyway I though I should tell you someone told me recently they read the Myth of Sysiphus by Albert Camus and it made them never think of suicide agian. Maybe give that book a shot?

anyway like The Life of Brian says "always look on the bright side of life..."

southernhybrid · 02-12-2003, 05:40 AM

I'm so relieved that you took the advice of your friends here and had yourself examined.

I think many of us have had suicidal ideations at one time or another. Luckily most of us stop short of actually killing ourselves and go on to live much happier lives as we grow older.

The counseling doesn't have to be bad, and you know you have a place to vent about it if you need to do so. Don't tell them about the Evil Atheist Conspiracy though. They might lock you up and throw away the key.

Mageth · 02-12-2003, 07:44 AM

SE, I'm so relieved to hear you took our advice, and that medically things seem to be OK! I was out yesterday, and thought about how you were doing often. Now, get busy with that counselling. It sounds like your family really loves and is supportive of you, and that is a huge plus!

Shake · 02-12-2003, 12:03 PM

Whew! Glad to hear everything's alright now. Just to reiterate: suicide is never the answer! Thank you for coming to us, and for taking everyone's advice! We're glad to have you back and in one piece!

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02-11-2003, 05:45 PM	#51
Sakpo Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Pacific Northwest (illegally occupied indigenous l Posts: 7,716	Secular Elation, My words can't express how glad I am that you went to the hospital, lived, and don't sound like you're permanently physically damaged. Your family's reaction is a very strong signal that they love you very much and care about you (of course, loving relatives could have reacted in different ways, I just think yours reacted excellently and in a clearly loving manner, that's all I meant).

02-11-2003, 06:29 PM	#52
lunachick Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NZ Posts: 7,895	A deep sigh of relief from me, too. I've been thinking about you all day, hoping you are alright. Thinking about my own "hiccup" not so long ago, too - and how overwhelming such feelings are. Like LadyShea said - the pain you are in is outweighing your coping mechanisms, and so we need to find new support, and new ways of coping. I have to go to counselling, too. I start on the 7th March - so, remember, you are not alone. Oh, I'm so relieved! I just got home from school, and raced to this thread to see if anyone had any word from you. It's great that YOU are the one bringing new word. Best of luck, SE. As cliche as this may sound - today is the first day of the rest of your life. Make it good.

02-11-2003, 06:42 PM	#53
trientalis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Washington state Posts: 848	I'm glad you're alive, Secular Elation. Keep it that way.

02-11-2003, 08:48 PM	#54
Just Another Infidel Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 370	S.E., I'm relieved to hear that you are OK. It sounds like your family is supportive. Consider yourself fortunate to have them. Kick back awhile. Sort things out. Figure out what's really important to you. Learn to be a little selfish. Go into the couseling with an open mind. Surely there will be some good stuff to take away from it. I'm sure it's a drag to face your family after this episode, but I'm also sure it will be easier for you to deal with them than for them to deal with your death. I'm really out of my depth here, but if you ever think the opinion/advice of an ex-military graybeard might be of any value, get in touch. I'll never cease to be amazed at how a bunch of people who've never met face to face can get so attached to each other! F***ing amazing! JAI

02-11-2003, 09:51 PM	#55
Colander of Truth Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Sri Dunka .... Donut: Cruller w/Jimmies Posts: 2,710	I might as well add my statement of relief. Having had my dad and grandfather succeed with their attempts, let me tell you how much I rejoice in my own failure as I do yours. Certainly I am not going to be your therapist; essentially, you are, with someone's help. Go into your therapy with the thought of gaining something from it, however small. If I can recommend a book, ask your therapist if "I don't want to talk about it," is relevant to your situation. -Bob

02-11-2003, 10:11 PM	#56
echidna Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,832	Jeez Sec, good to hear. Look, just trust a bunch of us here, that no matter how bad or impossible things seem now, if you can hang in there, things get better, much better. Now, don�t ever � ever � ever � do it again.

02-11-2003, 10:40 PM	#57
August Spies Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Vine Posts: 12,950	With the others, I am glad to see you are ok. and dont' do it again! anyway I though I should tell you someone told me recently they read the Myth of Sysiphus by Albert Camus and it made them never think of suicide agian. Maybe give that book a shot? anyway like The Life of Brian says "always look on the bright side of life..."

02-12-2003, 05:40 AM	#58
southernhybrid Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: heavenly Georgia Posts: 3,862	I'm so relieved that you took the advice of your friends here and had yourself examined. I think many of us have had suicidal ideations at one time or another. Luckily most of us stop short of actually killing ourselves and go on to live much happier lives as we grow older. The counseling doesn't have to be bad, and you know you have a place to vent about it if you need to do so. Don't tell them about the Evil Atheist Conspiracy though. They might lock you up and throw away the key.

02-12-2003, 07:44 AM	#59
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	SE, I'm so relieved to hear you took our advice, and that medically things seem to be OK! I was out yesterday, and thought about how you were doing often. Now, get busy with that counselling. It sounds like your family really loves and is supportive of you, and that is a huge plus!

02-12-2003, 12:03 PM	#60
Shake Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Folding@Home in upstate NY Posts: 14,394	Whew! Glad to hear everything's alright now. Just to reiterate: suicide is never the answer! Thank you for coming to us, and for taking everyone's advice! We're glad to have you back and in one piece!

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