Totalitarianist

By "love", of course, I mean consensual sexual experiences. I know this is often debated, but the point of this post is not to induce a discussion on the subject (though that would be okay); I am simply curious about the percentage of frequenters of these forums who think that it is either, in all cases, morally incorrect; in all cases, morally correct; or that it is sometimes right, and sometimes wrong.

I will say, though, that I have experienced this when I was either four or five (I would not admit this anywhere else), and that I did not at the time, nor do I at present, feel anything negative about the experience to any degree.

Monkeybot

Where is the dividing line between "man" and "boy"?

If you are talking about post-pubescent and pre-pubescent, I would say that is almost always wrong. Or rather -- it is wrong and damaging in enough cases that it can safely fall into the category of "unacceptable".

If you're just talking about the legal age of consent, the answer is more fluid; a 19 year old and a 17 year old, for example, would be no problem IMO.

lunachick

I may be way out of line here, but given the many posts of yours that I have read over the last few months...
I believe you.
I do not believe you.

Totalitarianist

The man being someone over the age of 16. The boy being under the age of 14, but not an infant.

Totalitarianist

How can it be wrong if it is consensual? This does not mean that I determine whether a sexual act is moral or immoral by its being consensual or not: I ask the question only because it is the belief of people in general, that consensual sex is okay.

Lunachick: Goodness, I am astonished at you! for who would be inclined to lie about such a thing?

lunachick

Me. And, I believe, you too.

gcameron

Um, I think it's to do with the "age of consent," the idea that children are not to be treated as independent moral agents because they lack the experience to make good judgments, etc., etc. And because a child may not fully understand what is happening to him/her, or why, or what the nature of the relationship is between him/her and the adult.

Bree

I do not believe that a child at the age of 4 or 5 has a good enough grasp of his/her sexuality to understand the full extent of sexual acts, either performed on them or performed by them. Therefore, I do not believe it is "right" to have sexual contact with someone of that age - they are simply too young to understand what they are doing.

Some children may not think what is being done/what they are doing is wrong: I have talked with many adults who had sexual contact with adults starting at very young ages and though they thought it was "just fine" at the time (most were convinced it was a game every girl played with her daddy, or it was a "special kind of love" daddy exhibited for his "special little girl") 100% of them now feel that it was wrong and did, indeed, harm them in some way.

Note that we are talking about children at very young ages - 4-5 years of age. I'm not talking about teen/adult relationships, a discussion that we've had so many times before.

Sue Sponte

Any sex by an adult with a child under 14 is wrong. Man/boy, Woman/Boy, etc. Doesn't matter. The child is simply incapable of understanding what he/she is doing, and therefore it cannot be consensual.

16 is a more difficult question, but as you've defined the parameters, always wrong.

Totalitarianist

I would say seven and up causes little harm, if any. They can actually experience orgasms at that age. Boys at that age have sexual fantasies. They indulge in their natural curiosity with other children.