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11-29-2002, 02:05 AM | #1 |
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Is there a spacetime limit?
Hi guys, as I believe that everyone of you knows that mass can bend or sketch spacetime according to GR. But recently an idea comes to my head which suggests that spacetime may in some ways behave like a solid and has an elastic limit and breaking point of its own. So how many of you feel that this is possible? If so, what do you think will be its limit?
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11-29-2002, 08:51 AM | #2 |
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No, according to cosmologists. There is no limit on how large the gravitational field can get.
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But here's a question for you, Answerer. What happens when spacetime is stretched beyond its breaking point? What do you think happens when it "breaks"? By the way, Penrose and others back in 1965 proved some theorems about the necessary existence of singularities. I'm not sure, though, what this says about the existence of infinite gravitational fields. I don't think a singularity is necessarily an example of an infinite gravitational field. But I'm just waffling in ignorance. |
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Ha, I never expect the answers to be both 'Yes' and 'no' from you guys. So, what do the others think?
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Anyway, I'm just imagining things and there is no one to tell me whether I could be right or wrong. |
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Well, if you're curious about the idea of spacetime tearing, there was an interesting idea floating around in M-brane theory (string theory with membranes) that a Caleb-Yau space (a multidimensional spacetime) can rip and tear while transforming into another Caleb-Yau space. The actual discontinuity would be shielded from the universe by a membrane. Some didn't like the idea that spacetime can tear and wanted something more palatable. So, after some more poking around, it was discovered that in a certain metric, spacetime didn't actually tear while undergoing this transformation. If you wish to read more about this, I recommend reading the litterature. I'm sure Greene's The Elegant Universe covers this development in detail.
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I did not realise that that universe was still expanding at an a greater rate.I thought that the greatest acceleration at the the instant of the last big bang.
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This creates a huge paradigm shift. Long it's been thought that the expansion of the universe was due to the big bang and that gravity was countering this expansion. But if we do indeed live in an accelerating universe then potentially expansion is an intrinsic property of space. The Cosmological Constant is no longer obtuse and becomes a force that would need to be unified just like gravity. The initial conditions of the universe no longer seem so unlikely. |
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