Justin70

This is absolutely amazing to me:

http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/sho...&threadid=2916

If you read some of the later posts, some of the ideas postulated are absolutely sickening. Who is the Socrates person? Does he even understand what he's saying?

How can people truly BELIEVE this garbage? It's like they're teaching a science class based on . . . crap!

Comments?

tgamble

The scary thing is, he probably does.

How can people truly BELIEVE this garbage? It's like they're teaching a science class based on . . . crap![/QUOTE]

Yes, they are. And that's what they want to teach in public schools.

pz

Socrates is an amazing person, and I don't mean that in a good way.

I was rather charmed by his suggestion that carnivores could have survived after leaving the ark by eating all the carrion lying around. Have you ever seen something dead that has been immersed in water for a week? Yet the Deluge flooded the world for a year. Boy, oh boy, that does wonders for my appetite. I surely do salivate at the thought of chowing down on a big dead elephant that looks like a pile of kim chee...or even better, like a jumble of soggy bones.

Quetzal

Yeah, I saw that thread (thanks to celsus). What I find really interesting is in Socrates's first post, he uses Safarti (AiG) as a reference to support his claims. Clicking on the reference given, Safarti uses Woodmorappe's (AiG) book as his primary reference. In Woodmorappe's book, Woodmorappe uses himself (geologist?) Jan Pezkis (spelling?) as a primary reference.

Can you say, "incestuous"? Gotta love those creationists.

Duvenoy

I lurk over there a bit, and some Soc posts make it interestig. The guy is so far out, he's back in again. Lay a fact or two on him and he instantly gets abusive.

Wish there was some way of enticing him over here. We haven't had a good, rabid fundie to 'entertain' in the longest time.

doov

tgamble

"Forgetting exhumed carrion, which carnivores would rather eat than expend energy hunting, or fish trapped in pools left behind by retreating floodwaters."

"If the flood waters covered the entire Earth, then the (fresh) rainwater would have mixed with the (salt) sea water.

Not necessarily, because freshwater is less dense and is KNOWN to be able to float on saltwater for a long time."

Winace is gonna have a field day with this shit!

Could someone explain what sea water floating on salt water is supposed to mean?

Just how long does preserved food (sans modern conveniences, I'm tlaking about thousands of years ago) last in a humid, closed enviroment with tons of shit lying around?

Mageth

Not to mention that many carnivores will not eat carrion, demanding fresh meat.

tgamble

That's what I said but Socrates demands examples.

Of course, those that do not require it are obviously the origonal "kind" on the ark and the rest are just variants of that "kind".

Mageth

That's what I said but Socrates demands examples.

Humans, for one. And most if not all snakes, I believe. And many carnivorous insect. Otters. Cetaceans.

Ask him for an example of a snake that eats carrion.

tgamble

For the snakes, Noah had a few sacks of dust.