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03-23-2003, 02:57 PM | #1 |
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9/11 and God
Ok, after reading on these forums a bit about evil and love and what-not, I have a question:
This pertains to 9/11 and the God of Christianity. I have read how some say that God allows evil so that it can bring people together and become more religious, so that more people are saved, etc. but: 1. What happened to all the people who were not "Christians" that died? Did God condemn them to hell by allowing them to be killed so that non-believers would convert? Did god figure, "Well, A few hundred or a few thousand may go to hell, but I'm converting 3 million people to christianity, so it balances out."? 2.Or did god give them amnesty and let them into heaven? 3. If #1, why would god be willing to send his own creation into hell? I thought he loved us all, and that doesn't seem very loving. At least if they were alive they'd go to hell of their own actions, not because god allowed them to be killed. I don't even understand why God would damn them to hell even then, if he is all-loving, but that's another topic. I have no idea which forum this would go in, sorry. And if I'm missing something here, correct me! I'm only 16 and still have alot to learn so don't be harsh Just looking for answers |
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Your questions really hit the nail on the head with why so many people here are disgusted with xianity and religion in general. I think that according to xian doctrine, god would send everyone to hell who doesn't believe in his existance. Sorry definition of love in my view. "You don't love me, you can go to hell"-- God.
Would you date someone who said something like that to you? Religion is full of contradictions-- in order to believe one must suspend reason. It amazes me how people find comfort in the belief of a xian god who at any minute may wipe you off the face of the earth or won't prevent such an event from happening. |
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if there is a God, i think he falls into the hannibal lector classification of what God would be: the supreme predator, a divine cannibal that enjoys the suffering of his people.
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Everyone has 1 life in order to accept God's gift, which is why its emphasized that you shouldn't wait around and act like, i'll worry about it later because you never know how long you have. The people in the building had the whole time they were alive to find Jesus. Whether they go to Hell or not is God's judgement. He will look at each person individually and base it on whether they tried to have a relationship with him or had no religious knowledge whatsoever. If they had full knowledge of God and Jesus, and knew they were sinners and were Hell bound without Jesus as their saviour, and still rejected Him, then yes most likely they are in Hell because they made that choice. But none of us knows who is going to Hell and who isn't, only God does so its up to Christians to spread the gospel and let the person and God deal with the rest. Now, to your point about God letting them die to bring about the greater good, isn't so. Humans used their own choices to commit the crime, God can just bring good things out of an evil situation humans caused. So the terrorists killed those people on their own, against God, but God used that evil act to bring unity to the world and other good things. We should never commit evil, but when evil is committed, God can work with it to do good. God is NOT willing to send his own creation to Hell. He doesn't want anyone to go there. He wanted people to stay out of Hell so much that he came to earth among us sinners and died by our hands to pay the penalty and save us from it. Jesus preached more about how to avoid Hell than anything else in the Bible because of how much he wants you to avoid it. But every human sins against God and the wages of sin are death because it violates God's nature and sovereignty. He must execute righteous judgement to those who don't accept his gift to avoid Hell. God wants you to avoid Hell so much, that in the end times when he executes his wrath and judgement on the sinning, unbelieving world, He will STILL give those who are living one more chance to accept his gift, even after seeing his power and wrath. God wants NO ONE to go to Hell, but if people continue to live in sin and reject Him, that is their punishment and fate. (waits for the sarcasm and insults from happyboy and friends) |
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One of the things that bothers me the most about 9/11 are the fundies who say that the people who jumped out the windows go to hell. Given that hell exists and god is fair and just (which he isn't, I'm assuming this for the sake of the argument), what ELSE were they supposed to do? Stay and burn slowly?!?! Quote:
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Let me guess your answer. They are in Hell because YOUR religion is the only true religion and all other religions are tricks of Satan. |
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