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Walter_Mitty · 08-13-2002, 11:10 AM

Amos writes:

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I don't think priests are allowed to insert penis' into little boys or girls, but if they do why should such a sin not be forgiven?

Amos, you CAN'T be serious?

brighid · 08-13-2002, 11:26 AM

Thank goodness we live in a secular country, or if it was Catholicland because I have a vagina I wouldn't be allowed to speak my mind ... as if somehow being born with female genitalia causes ... what? I know - not being born with a penis!

B

brighid · 08-13-2002, 11:32 AM

Amos,

Let me break it down for ya - I was raised Catholic - did the whole shabang from baptism - confirmation, et al. So please don't patronize me as if I don't KNOW the reasons why Catholicism is so misogynist and stupid. Jesus wasn't a female, yadda, yadda, yadda. He was also a Jew, but somehow non-Jewish males aren't excluded from the ministry ... ohhhhhh ....... I waste my time on the deeply indoctrinated ... have I unlawful broken into the sanctuary of the minds of men?? Oh, the horror ... not that .... for shame!

Bowing head in subservience, covering head, and submitting my authority to a man.............'

NOT!

Brighid

brighid · 08-13-2002, 11:44 AM

"All of you are children of God through faith in Christ Jesus. All of you who have been baptized in Christ, have clothed yourselves in Christ. Thus there is no longer Jew nor Greek, free nor slave, male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3,27-28

<a href="http://www.womensordination.org/pages/why.html" target="_blank">http://www.womensordination.org/pages/why.html</a>

08-13-2002, 01:52 PM

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God was male

This seems a heretical statement. God is surely supposed to be incorporeal and lacking in any sexual equipment, even a y-chromosome. Who would this god copulate with? Surely there is absolutely no point in assigning a gender to any such being.

It is true that xians claim that god was incarnate in jesus, but surely there is nothing to stop god becoming incarnate in other guises any time he/she/it cares to. The second coming might well feature a woman! No xian alive now knows anything to the contrary.

Mageth · 08-13-2002, 02:02 PM

God was male...

...before that little operation in Stockholm.

bonduca · 08-13-2002, 02:14 PM

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Hitler has nothing to do with this but I always thought that Hitler was another freethinker like Luther and now your sweet female priestesses.

Even for Amos, this is rather bizarre.

bonduca · 08-13-2002, 02:19 PM

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Women cannot and should not be priests. It is that simple.

Even when I was a theist, one of the things I found most unappealing about the Catholic church was the second-class status it assigned to women.

Walter_Mitty · 08-13-2002, 03:32 PM

*Bump*

Eagerly awaiting Gemmas reply...

08-13-2002, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by Bibliophile:
<strong>Amos writes:

Amos, you CAN'T be serious?</strong>

What do you mean? Don't you think life is more difficult if we are all chocked up with unforgiveness?

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08-13-2002, 11:26 AM	#42
brighid Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: somewhere in the known Universe Posts: 6,993	Thank goodness we live in a secular country, or if it was Catholicland because I have a vagina I wouldn't be allowed to speak my mind ... as if somehow being born with female genitalia causes ... what? I know - not being born with a penis! B

08-13-2002, 11:32 AM	#43
brighid Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: somewhere in the known Universe Posts: 6,993	Amos, Let me break it down for ya - I was raised Catholic - did the whole shabang from baptism - confirmation, et al. So please don't patronize me as if I don't KNOW the reasons why Catholicism is so misogynist and stupid. Jesus wasn't a female, yadda, yadda, yadda. He was also a Jew, but somehow non-Jewish males aren't excluded from the ministry ... ohhhhhh ....... I waste my time on the deeply indoctrinated ... have I unlawful broken into the sanctuary of the minds of men?? Oh, the horror ... not that .... for shame! Bowing head in subservience, covering head, and submitting my authority to a man.............' NOT! Brighid

08-13-2002, 11:44 AM	#44
brighid Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: somewhere in the known Universe Posts: 6,993	"All of you are children of God through faith in Christ Jesus. All of you who have been baptized in Christ, have clothed yourselves in Christ. Thus there is no longer Jew nor Greek, free nor slave, male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3,27-28 <a href="http://www.womensordination.org/pages/why.html" target="_blank">http://www.womensordination.org/pages/why.html</a>

08-13-2002, 02:02 PM	#46
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	God was male... ...before that little operation in Stockholm.

08-13-2002, 03:32 PM	#49
Walter_Mitty Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: . Posts: 467	Bump Eagerly awaiting Gemmas reply...

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