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Old 02-21-2003, 05:20 PM   #1
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Default Does a-Green-Cheesism Explain anything?

I find the thread "does atheism explain anything" annoying, because not believing something is simply not related to explaining anything.

Morals and ethics, deities aside, are created, understood, and enforced by humans (unless you have some really extraordinary falsifiable evidence that I haven't seen yet). Since they are created, understood, and enforced by humans, what need is there of explaination from a-green-cheesism?

Ergo, I ask, does not believing that the moon is made of green cheese explain anything?

For extra credit, explain!

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"I find the thread "does atheism explain anything" annoying, because not believing something is simply not related to explaining anything.

Morals and ethics, deities aside, are created, understood, and enforced by humans (unless you have some really extraordinary falsifiable evidence that I haven't seen yet). Since they are created, understood, and enforced by humans, what need is there of explaination from a-green-cheesism?

Ergo, I ask, does not believing that the moon is made of green cheese explain anything?

For extra credit, explain!"
I agree with you that simply not believing something does not entail any obligation to explain anything. I chose to use that as my subject title for the thread because:

1. Not only is atheism not intended to explain anything (which is perfectly fine), but on the assumption of atheism nothing CAN be objectively explained. With no ultimate authority, at best, we have a bunch of facts, but we have no standard for how to determine who's interpretation of the facts is most sensible.

2. It seemed likely to grab people's attention.

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...Ergo, I ask, does not believing that the moon is made of green cheese explain anything?....
It leads to a simple explanation why astronauts never reported finding green cheese on the moon. (Because there wasn't any)
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It leads to a simple explanation why astronauts never reported finding green cheese on the moon. (Because there wasn't any)
Not at all, not at all. There just wasn't any where THEY were
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With no ultimate authority, at best, we have a bunch of facts, but we have no standard for how to determine who's interpretation of the facts is most sensible.
No, with no "ultimate authority", YOU have no standard to determine sensibility. And that is sad, as most people are wholly capable of doing so. But if you understood that, I wouldn't need to mention this.
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It seems to me that A-anythingism is related to explaining things. It eliminates some possible explanations and allows one to center in on theories that one considers to be more credible than others.

Strong a-anythingism says that you believe that looking in the direction of anythingism isn't going to get you anywhere.

The increased focus of a-anythingism can lead to a much more efficient search for explanations.
 
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"No, with no "ultimate authority", YOU have no standard to determine sensibility. And that is sad, as most people are wholly capable of doing so. But if you understood that, I wouldn't need to mention this."
With no ultimate authority you have no basis upon which to say your interpretation of the facts is more reasonable than anyone else's.

I have heard that there is a club somewhere, consisting of people who don't believe humans have ever set foot on the moon. They claim it was just a big government hoax to justify a bigger budget for the space program. Are these people's views sensible? How can anyone decide this objectively?

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With no ultimate authority you have no basis upon which to say your interpretation of the facts is more reasonable than anyone else's.
No matter how many times you keep saying this, it will remain false. And I know that it is false because, in fact, it is false.
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Hey, who moved my cheese?
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John,

Did your cheese ever exist in the first place?
 
 

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