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Old 07-15-2003, 07:22 PM   #31
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Thanks. I find Hinduism rather intimidating.


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Why? Is it because of the many gods and books stuff?
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The whole Krishna thing is BS. The Christian missionaries started it to demonstrate to Hindus that Krishna is only a type of Christ and so they should become proper Christians.
Do you have any references (preferrably in print) for this interesting tidbit?

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Indeed. Years ago I had the pleasure to visit the British Museum [Cue Rule Britania with full chorus.--Ed.] when it had an exhibit on Hinduism. FLOORS were devoted justs to periods of the development of the faith!

Or as a mentor once put it, "It is a bit intimidating to realize that while your ancestors were going "Urg!" with a rock, they had a major culture and religion."

Anyways, I had though in the Mahabarata Krishna's "human" form is killed by a snake. It has been some time since I looked at it.

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And could similar sorts of sources be behind Kersey Graves's other stories of crucified saviors?
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He has never risen from death. This was inconceivable and unacceptable for the Greeks. Only Asclepius, the doctor, if I remember well ( Doctor X, help!!! ) has performed this "miracle" once and put himself in real trouble...
Not that she was a savior or anything, but wouldn't Eurydice have returned from the dead if Orpheus hadn't turned back to look for her at the last minute? (And doesn't this little story bear a Lot of resemblance to some Old Testament nonsense?)

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Not that she was a savior or anything, but wouldn't Eurydice have returned from the dead if Orpheus hadn't turned back to look for her at the last minute? (And doesn't this little story bear a Lot of resemblance to some Old Testament nonsense?)

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But those who created this myth wanted Orpheus to turn his head and lose Eurydice The concept is the same with the myth of Asclepius; those who attempted to beat death, failed...

Right now, I cannot think of any resemblance of this story with the OT stories, can you point them out for me, I am curious.

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Right now, I cannot think of any resemblance of this story with the OT stories, can you point them out for me, I am curious.
Don't look back!!!

Greek - Orpheus loses his love by looking back before reaching his house.

Gen 19:26 - But Lot's wife, behind him, looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.

My pun in the previous post apparently went unnoticed (A Lot of resemblance....).

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Hmmmm... Allow me to disagree.

The Myth of Orpheus and Eurydice has nothing to do with the myth of Lot's wife...

Orpheus was "punished" for trying to violate a law of Nature , Lot's wife was punished for violating God' will...

We are talking about two completely different worlds here, The Greek world and the World of OT.

Not to mention that Death in OT's story, is the outcome and not the cause.
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7. Quexalcote (Mexico) [Presumably the same as Quetzalcoatl]
Never heard og him/her/it. In fact the only google hits I can find on the name refer to this list.

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He was crucified on a cross to atone for man's sins.
This is in such diametric conflict with meso-american theology, as it were, that its almost certainly bogus.

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He rode a donkey. [This makes me giggle for some reason]
The reason probably is that there were no horses in in this period in the region. Maybe he rode a Llama.

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He forgave sins.
What a terrible thing to do. Didn't he know that the entire cosmos depended on the human sacrifice of blood?
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The Myth of Orpheus and Eurydice has nothing to do with the myth of Lot's wife...
Yeah, I'd have to agree. They do have that one striking similarity (which I always thought was a silly plot device), but I overstated the case so I could work in that excretable pun. Forgive me!

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