Psycho Dave

Here is a ROUGH summation (no footnotes, incomplete on names) of what I am uncovering in my research)
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In America, we have a rising tide of hate and intolerance. the
airwaves are full of pundits promoting hate, and most people would be shocked at exactly who and where it's all coming from. Hate in America is being promoted by conservative talk-show hosts on TV and Radio, and it's not secular at all. No. Far from it. Many conservative radio stations in America double as religious radio stations, not only broadcasting Oliver North, Michael Savage, and Rush Limbaugh, but also broadcasting James Dobson, Bob Larson, Pat Robertson, and Gary North.

The hate that comes from conservative pundits is disguised as
political commentary. To make it hate, the pundits fire up their
rhetoric with incendiary language. Michael Savage and Ann Coulter, for example, call so-called liberals "haters of America", "evil", "monstrous", "devious", and other things that provoke extreme responses from readers and listeners. Michael Savage, on his MSNBC show "Savage Nation" calls gays "Nazi bastards from hell," and claims that "Hispanics breed like rabbits". MSNBC might as well just have a talk show hosted by the KKK, since Savage uses their language so well (Racists talk of white people "raising families", and non-whites as "breeding").

If you ever listen to Rush Limbaugh, it's obvious what hate he
promotes -- He promotes hatred of democrats and so-called
liberals. No matter what's going on in Washington, or who's in
charge, everything to Rush Limbaugh seems to be Bill Clinton's
fault, or the fault of "liberal democrats", despite the fact that
George W. Bush has been in the white house for over 2 years now, and the democrats have their smallest showing in Washington in decades. These types of political broadcasts don't use standard hate speech, but are rather designed to introduce hate by using factoids and opinions to make listeners really angry -- and directs that anger at the enemy of conservative pundits, namely, liberals and democrats. Rush Limbaugh stays further away from racial issues, but his main goal as a spin-doctor is to attack liberals and defend the extreme right wing agenda. He refers to feminists as "Feminazis", and characterizes even moderate feminists as man hating lesbians.

Perhaps the most ridiculous example of what Limbaugh does is when he puts down the ADL and the ACLU, by constantly dredging up a littany of alleged liberal connections to communism that both groups share -- never letting listeners hear how some conservative voices (like Bob Enyart) have actually been helped them. Limbaugh keeps listeners angry at liberals and the democrats by blaming them for pretty much everything wrong in the world, while ignoring dangerous precidents set by the Bush administration (like the patriot acts I and II, which make the freedom of speech we all share irrelevent).

Ann Coulter, in her her Sept. 14, 2001 column, said that in
response to Sept. 11th terrorism: "We should invade their
countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
All the above pundits, including Pat Buchanan, accuse Mexicans of
"invading" America to "steal jobs". That type of language is not
as overt as burning a cross on someone's front lawn, but it all
adds up. But that's just the conservative hate that you are
probably already familiar with. There are some prominant Americans promoting hate whom you almost never hear about being associated with hate, and wouldn't readily suspect, either.

Christian radio stations all over America broadcast hate-filled
diatribes by various pundits, and organizations such as the
American Family Association and Liberty Federation pump out hate literature disguised as political or religious literature. No, I'm not talking about the tim that Ranall Terry went on a nationally-broadcast Christian radio program and asked listeners to "please assassinate Dr. Warren Hern", director of a Boulder, Colorado Abortion Clinic. No, the hate usually broadcast is much more subtle. D. James Kennedy, founder of Coral Ridge ministries in Florida, has strong ties to various Neonazi organizations, though he has never been to their events or has supported them openly on his programs. Kennedy is a strong opponent of the ADL, and constantly broadcasts one of several "reports" on his weekly television and radio programs, which claim that the ADL, which was founded by Jewish people to defend Jews from hate crime and defamation, (and Kennedy makes that VERY clear by mentioning over and over again how they are mostly Jewish), is working to destroy Christianity and take away religious free speech.

How are they doing this? According to Kennedy's media, they are trying to craft legislation that turns certain Christian beliefs into hate speech. Which speech? what the Bible says about Homosexality and Jews, of course. Kennedy, in one segment, reveals that there are New Testament verses warning believers about Jews.
Now it is true that not all Christians interpret these lines in a
way that means that God wants us to hate Jews, but some do,
particularly those with ties to Klan and Nazi organizations.
In one of his attacks on the ADL, Kennedy actually brings up these quotes, and sort of half-handedly leaves it up to the viewer what to think about Jews. What about his ties to Neonazis? Well, guess where most of the information in his video reports came from? They came from several people in Don Wildmon's organization (more on him later) who are known to be members of Neonazi organizations, and one of them was the reporter on the video! The organizations even have each other's literature in their catalogs -- Kennedy's in the neo-nazi organization's, and some of the conspiracy literature of the Nazi organization is in Kennedy's catalog. Kennedy also has many reports telling viewers about the evil homosexual agenda, and how gays seek special status and special protection, and how they want to make all children gay by infiltrating the school system. All of these factoids are ridiculous hyperbole, of course, but the more they are shown on religious programming, under the guise of being religious, as opposed to the blatantly political message that it is, it's okay.

Don Wildmon -- Founder of the American Family Association, is very close friends with several well-known neonazis. Fred Newman, who has worked from time to time with Wildmon on various campaigns, is founder of the National Alliance, a Neonazi organization. In fact, Newman is not the only neonazi in Don Wildmons circle of friends. Several members of the Aryan Nations, as well as other racist organizations, have been staff members of the AFA from time to time. Wildmon likes to point out how some of his best friends are Jewish, but his books are full of statements about how "Hollywood and the theater world is heavily influenced by Jewish People... These people are overtly hostile to the Christian faith." (Rev. Donald Wildmon, in his book, "The Home Invaders", when describing what he calls Jewish domination of the entertainment industry). IN fact, he and Pat Buchanan both make a big deal of Ruth Bader Ginsberg being on te Supreme Court, even though Sandra Day O'Connor votes on the liberal sides of issues far more often than Ginsberg.

Pat Robertson. -- The founder of the Christian Coalition a racist
hate monger? You be the judge. Pat Robertson, has spoken of Jews being "spiritually blind" and "spiritually deaf." (St. Petersburg Times,June 26, 1994), and that Communism was the product of German-Jewish intellectuals. Prior to the fall of apartheid, Robertson's 700 club show did a series of reports on how the apartheid leaders were really nice, god-fearing men, and how all the blacks who opposed apartheid were communists and heathens. He has close ties with D. James Kennedy and Don Wildmon, and has helped them promote their anti-Jewish and anti-Gay propaganda with the use of his video faclities. Probably most interesting, is Robertson's ties to 3rd world terrorist dictators. He was very close friends with Mobuto Sesi Seko, and often lobbied on his behalf in Washington. Mobuto, who was responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians in years of civil war, allowed Robertson to operate a diamond mine when Congo was known as Zaire. Many of the diamonds from the former Zaire are considered blood diamonds by international diamond traders, owing to the fact that Mobuto had political prisoners, civilians, and children, dig up diamonds under death threats and armed guards. Robertson's mining operation reportedly had some of these people digging for diamonds.

Billy Graham. SAY IT ISN'T SO! It is. Years ago, when Graham was
in the White House under President Richard Nixon, tape recordings were made which included conversations between Nixon and Graham. Early in 2003, a reporter published a story with a quote that was allegedly from Billy Graham. Graham allegedly said that the Porography business in the United States is controlled largely by Jews (which, by the way, is not even remotely true. It's a common delusion of antisemites that Jews control everything that's bad).

Graham immediately denied the report, and claimed that the
reporter put those words into his mouth. Then the reporter hit
back, and revealed that the source of the quotes were some newly released Nixon tapes, where there is no doubt that the speaker is Graham. This story went largely unreported, owing to the impending war in Iraq dominating the news. Graham stopped responding to all questions about the incident, and won't even deny it anymore.

What is this all about? Am I trying to say that Christianity is
evil? No. Am I saying that we should be suspicious of all
Christian groups? No. So what is my message? My message is simple. Conservative movements, and several well-known religious leaders, promote hate. I am not saying that all Christians who admire these men are guilty -- just these men and some people in their organizations. Their racism is very subtle. It is the kind of racism that is associated with southern gentry -- polite, spoken only in good company, never broadcast to outsiders. It occaisionally slips out, in a casual remark, often unguarded. This racism is part of a larger agenda, possibly an agenda which involves the old phrase "The South shall rise again." It's hard to tell without talking more directly to those involved, but the pattern is there for all to see. Using religion and religious media to broadcast subtle messages of hate and antisemitism is not new. Father Joseph Coughlin was doing it back in the 1930s, as America's first radio preacher. Coughlin was an ardent supporter of the Nazis and KKK, and openly supported them on his program, as it was a different time when the KKK was actually more widely respected by Americans. I guess what I am really saying is that hate in America sometimes comes from sources that we don't expect -- and wouldn't suspect.

dangin

You forgot that Robertson flew mining equipment to Zaire on Operation Blessing planes that were paid for by 700 club donors to send doctors to 3rd world countries.

Second, I think there are conservatives/republicans who despise what is revealed in your litany of shame. In other words I believe their are conservatives who are not anti gay, anti separation, and anti jew.

Finally, I think you need to do better to reference, and/or use facts and data to back up each of your claims. You seem to be thin on quotes and references.

But I agree with you. Damn conservatives need to be stopped. To the polls. Oh wait, still a year and half to wait. . .

Alludium Fozdex

Psycho Dave!

Good to see you around here. I don't think we've crossed paths since the days of the old ShadowGov (now TheologyOnline) boards.

Keep it up!

Psycho Dave

Dangin wrote:
Yes, I knew about that, but I was trying to briefly summarize a lot of material.
es, john McCain, for one. McCain is so moderate that Rush Limbaugh calls him a "Stealth Democrat" -- that McCain is a LIBERAL, and should not be allowed to be part of the Republican party. There are lots of moderate republicans, but they're so darn polite that they don't speak their displeasure with the far-right enough.
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Finally, I think you need to do better to reference, and/or use facts and data to back up each of your claims. You seem to be thin on quotes and references.
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Oh, as I said -- I left out footnotes and references, because I was trying to summarize the voluminous notes I have taken, but sadly, which I have not organized into a nice neat package.
It's not the conservatives that need to be stopped. It's the FAR RIGHT, which seems to think that they are the only people who are allowed to be part of the republican party. The people I wrote about of are not just conservatives -- they're pretty much beyond mere conservatism and into fascism.

dangin

Yeah, they've hijacked the republican party, that's for sure. I wasn't trying to criticize, damn fine work.

Jewel

I will definately be interested in reading the final product of your research. What you've got so far is good stuff. And you're right -- not all republican's are racist homophobes -- but the ones that are make it seem that way. I'd like to see resonable republicans take the party back.

Happy hunting, as they say.

-Jewel

lpetrich

I suggest that you try to do so and go online -- get some webspace from somewhere to put it in.

You ought not to worry about prettifying it too much -- the important thing is to get the word out.

Beetle

Interesting post, Psycho Dave. While I'm not a big fan of any of the people you mentioned, I'm not sure your criticism of Limbaugh is really accurate. You claim that his routine attacks on Clinton and democrats "promote hate." I don't see that he's doing anything any different than most of the political discussion on this forum, albeit for the other side.

Couldn't I selectively quote from your posts in this thread (such as where you compare your subjects to fascists) and claim that you're promoting hatred of Republicans and conservatives?

Deacon Doubtmonger

Gotta love this one! Randall Terry actually admits openly to hatred, and exhorts others to do so at Promise Keepers meetings: "Just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good ... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty; we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."

Full text of the article containing the above quote is here:

http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/kcpk.htm

Deacon Doubtmonger of Denver

"In any decently run universe, this [God] would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago." -- George Carlin

Kevbo

I find it sad that the ultrafundamentalists have hijacked the Republican party. I don't agree with Bush's economic plan and think that trickle-down economics is a joke, but what I really can't stand are fundamentalists trying to impose their racist, homophobic, intolerant "values" on the rest of society. Most of these fundamentalists get their views straight from their collective literal interpretation of the Bible, which they also use as a sieve for filtering any scientific studies that might conflict with their dogma.