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River · 08-01-2003, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Asha'man
If the Big Bang Theory was so explicitly stated, how come nobody knew about it until this century?

I think you are reading much more into the text than is actually there.

I guess it caused people some confusion when they first recited the verse. Or perhaps it was a well kept secret. Well, anyways the verse on Big Bang is not that ambiguous.

tribalbeeyatch · 08-01-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by River
I hope that edict was not passed by a Muslim because ....Muslims knew that the Earth was round before other peoples.

Nonsense. Eratosthenes performed his calculation of the earth's radius in something like 200 B.C., and he wasn't even the first to try.

River · 08-01-2003, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by tribalbeeyatch
Nonsense. Eratosthenes performed his calculation of the earth's radius in something like 200 B.C., and he wasn't even the first to try.

hmmmm....... sorry I answered in a hurry / (state of frenzy)....I meant so say.

I hope that edict was not passed by a Muslim because ....Muslims knew that the Earth was round before ( most )other peoples.

asgardhaven · 08-01-2003, 12:18 PM

all this flat vs. round earth brings up a question for me.

Are we trying to assert that the religion reveals these things or that the practicioners of these religions knew these things by means other than revelation but that their faith's didn't require them to reject these notions?

Dargo · 08-01-2003, 01:33 PM

If Islam is so pro-science why have non-Muslims made the vast majority of scientific discoveries during the past 500 or so years? Lest I be accused of being a white supremist, I would note that Japan has adapted very well to the scientific age. They are also one of the least religious nations in the world.

asgardhaven · 08-01-2003, 01:49 PM

Dargo,

A dearth of discoveries in Islamic countries recently is probably due more to social and political forces than an inherit problem with the faith itself. For more details see my earlier post.

The Japanesse modernized so well because they were a homogenous (ie fewer social destractions) culture that were lead by a strong central govt. into a modernization program for national security an prestige reasons.

Aravnah Ornan · 08-01-2003, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by River
Evolution is implicitly stated in the Qur'an.

That may well come as news to these people.

River · 08-01-2003, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Aravnah Ornan
That may well come as news to these people.

All is interpretation. However, there is nothing in the Quran that contradicts Evolution.

08-01-2003, 09:48 PM

Before you claim too much for islam and science, River, I would refer you to this book and this one by Pervez Hoodbhoy, who is a distinguished scientist from Pakistan and a muslim.

Gregg · 08-01-2003, 11:57 PM

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In fact, I think I'm the only one on these boards who admits to hating science and choosing faith as opposed to it.

Well then, I guess we won't be hearing from you anymore. If you hate science, you must also hate computers and technology of any kind.

Gregg

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08-01-2003, 12:18 PM	#44
asgardhaven Regular Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN USA Posts: 129	all this flat vs. round earth brings up a question for me. Are we trying to assert that the religion reveals these things or that the practicioners of these religions knew these things by means other than revelation but that their faith's didn't require them to reject these notions?

08-01-2003, 01:33 PM	#45
Dargo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 713	If Islam is so pro-science why have non-Muslims made the vast majority of scientific discoveries during the past 500 or so years? Lest I be accused of being a white supremist, I would note that Japan has adapted very well to the scientific age. They are also one of the least religious nations in the world.

08-01-2003, 01:49 PM	#46
asgardhaven Regular Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN USA Posts: 129	Dargo, A dearth of discoveries in Islamic countries recently is probably due more to social and political forces than an inherit problem with the faith itself. For more details see my earlier post. The Japanesse modernized so well because they were a homogenous (ie fewer social destractions) culture that were lead by a strong central govt. into a modernization program for national security an prestige reasons.

08-01-2003, 09:48 PM	#49
DMB Guest Posts: n/a	Before you claim too much for islam and science, River, I would refer you to this book and this one by Pervez Hoodbhoy, who is a distinguished scientist from Pakistan and a muslim.

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