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07-31-2003, 12:21 PM | #1 |
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Bitter truths about Islam
http://www.faithfreedom.org
This is a website created by Muslim apostates (those who left Islam). They argue from a humanist freethinking perspective that opression in Islamic societies and Islamic terrorism is caused directly by the Quran and the Hadith. Killing of apostates and "blasphemers", lack of separation of religion and state, oppression of women, marginalization of non-Muslims are realities in almost all Islamic countries. These injustices, the site argues, are not "deviations" from Islam or a result of "local culture"-- instead, they are the only logical outcome of implementation of Islamic teachings of the Quran and the Hadith. Most arguments of Ali Sina (the ex-Muslim Iranian founder of the site) I find almost perfect from a secular humanist point of view. Clearly and mercilessly he dissipates the comforting fog that Islamic apologists use to cover the barbaric aspects of Islam. Islam cannot and never will be able to exist in a Western democracy with its equal rights for women, freedom of religion and speech. When the numbers of Muslims in an infidel land are high enough, they always make it clear by demanding Sharia and complete self-government, as well as by silencing all criticisms of the "religion of peace". After I found this website, I realized that for me-- and kaffirs like me-- Islam will always be an enemy. The value of our lives are miniscule in the eyes of Islamic doctrine and our opinions are dangerous heresy. |
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Beautiful Truths of Islam
This is a website by ex- Jews ( those who left Judaism). They argue for the humanistic and humanitarian perspecitve that the Quranic Islam preaches as a standard in modern societies and that love and compassion are deeply rooted in the Qur'an and the Hadith.
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/ |
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Beautiful Truths about Islam
This is a website by ex- Xtians( those who left Christianity). They argue for the humanistic and humanitarian perspecitve that the Quranic Islam preaches as a standard in modern societies and that love and compassion are deeply rooted in the Qur'an and the Hadith.
www.christiansformuhammad.org/ |
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These Justices, the site argues, are rooted from Islam and should not be confused as the resultant of "local culture"-- instead, Islam is the only logical outcome of implementation of Quranic teachings of the Prophets and their Sunna.
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07-31-2003, 12:43 PM | #5 |
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Beautiful Truths of Islam
Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, and that ye be kind to parents. Whether one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honour. [ Holy Qur'an 17:23]
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As barbaric as Islam seems (and is), it is still no worse than Christianity was at one time. Islam is 500 years behind, that's all.
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Islam is not 500 years behind....it is actually centuries ahead. However, "the Muslims" are 500 years behind , stuck in a dark age. |
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Yes, of course. Those Muslims aren't "true Muslims" (TM)
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07-31-2003, 01:21 PM | #10 |
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The Qur'an talks about Adam and Eve and Noah's Flood. Is that what you call progressive? We now know that Adam and Eve never existed, and that Noah's Flood never happened.
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