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conkermaniac · 07-21-2003, 04:05 PM

Well, a Christian on another forum challenged me to demonstrate how the Bible contradicts science. He also asked me to look at www.godandscience.org. Now I realize that there are strength in numbers. The more strong examples I can find, the more convincing my argument becomes.

I'm thinking about collecting all of these onto a website, so that they can be used as a future reference (of course, giving credit to the appropriate persons). I would appreciate any examples.

Thanks

BrotherMan · 07-21-2003, 04:16 PM

www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

Magus55 · 07-21-2003, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by BrotherMan
www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

The worst source for contradictions of the Bible on the net. Even many atheists on this board said that SAB has many misinterpretations. SAB is useless.

Doctor X · 07-21-2003, 04:36 PM

I would concentrate on an event in Genesis. There are many to choose from.

Then outline how they reinterpret previous myths.

Then outline how they contradict the basics of science--those windows in the sky that let the flood waters in, for example.

Check out some of the recommended reading for sources for the myths.

If you really want to be nasty, you can demonstrate that the Patriach Stories, Exodus, Conquest, United Monarchy never happened, but it involves arguing archaeology. At this point, your opponent will either ignore you or shout that you are reading the text wrong, the scientists are wrong, everyone is biased . . . it will be a wonderful introduction to basic fallacies.

--J.D.

ex-xian · 07-21-2003, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
The worst source for contradictions of the Bible on the net. Even many atheists on this board said that SAB has many misinterpretations. SAB is useless.

I would ignore magus55's suggestion. I'm sure the SAB has some iffy things in it, but just use your best judgement.

Dr Rick · 07-21-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
The worst source for contradictions of the Bible on the net.

Do you know of a better source?

conkermaniac · 07-21-2003, 08:33 PM

In fact, I do know very much about SAB, but I must admit that it isn't the most reliable source. Many of their interpretations are flawed and generally not very convincing. They are decent, but far from great. Are there any less controversial Bible annotations?

Magus55 · 07-21-2003, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by Dr Rick
Do you know of a better source?

Well since there are no contradictions in the Bible, only faulty assumptions.... nope can't say that I do. But SAB is still a joke.

winstonjen · 07-21-2003, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
Well since there are no contradictions in the Bible, only faulty assumptions.... nope can't say that I do. But SAB is still a joke.

Well, since you want us so much to PROVE there is no god, why don't you prove that there are NO contradictions in the bible. You can start with the SAB, and if you ever get done, we'll start to respect you.

Peter Kirby · 07-21-2003, 10:26 PM

I find the SAB useful because it attempts to be comprehensive (and unreliable for the same reason). You should be fine if you have any independent critical thinking skills.

best,
Peter Kirby

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conkermaniac Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: American in China Posts: 620	What are all the science problems with the Bible? Well, a Christian on another forum challenged me to demonstrate how the Bible contradicts science. He also asked me to look at www.godandscience.org. Now I realize that there are strength in numbers. The more strong examples I can find, the more convincing my argument becomes. I'm thinking about collecting all of these onto a website, so that they can be used as a future reference (of course, giving credit to the appropriate persons). I would appreciate any examples. Thanks

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07-21-2003, 04:16 PM	#2
BrotherMan Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: City of Dis Posts: 496	www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

07-21-2003, 04:36 PM	#4
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	I would concentrate on an event in Genesis. There are many to choose from. Then outline how they reinterpret previous myths. Then outline how they contradict the basics of science--those windows in the sky that let the flood waters in, for example. Check out some of the recommended reading for sources for the myths. If you really want to be nasty, you can demonstrate that the Patriach Stories, Exodus, Conquest, United Monarchy never happened, but it involves arguing archaeology. At this point, your opponent will either ignore you or shout that you are reading the text wrong, the scientists are wrong, everyone is biased . . . it will be a wonderful introduction to basic fallacies. --J.D.

07-21-2003, 08:33 PM	#7
conkermaniac Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: American in China Posts: 620	In fact, I do know very much about SAB, but I must admit that it isn't the most reliable source. Many of their interpretations are flawed and generally not very convincing. They are decent, but far from great. Are there any less controversial Bible annotations?

07-21-2003, 10:26 PM	#10
Peter Kirby Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: the reliquary of Ockham's razor Posts: 4,035	I find the SAB useful because it attempts to be comprehensive (and unreliable for the same reason). You should be fine if you have any independent critical thinking skills. best, Peter Kirby

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