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Old 07-04-2003, 09:52 AM   #21
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nope, being incarnate in the flesh allowed God to walk among sinners - God the Father, a spiritual entity can't be in sinners precense because He is perfect and Holy.
Eh? Magus, this makes no sense.

How could God take on human flesh, since human flesh itself is subject to the fall and therefore imperfect and corrupted by sin. For instance, it decays, is subject to disease, etc. Was Jesus immune to this? Or are you suggesting that Jesus's earthly body was composed of some different substance, not flesh at all; that the spiritual bit of God that came to this planet wore the Jesus form as some kind of armour against sin? (In which case Jesus was not in any true sense a human being and in no position to lecture other human beings on how to live. It also leaves unanswered the question of how exactly sin limits God's actions.) Doesn't the Bible say that Jesus was prey to the same temptations that afflict all of us? Therefore he was human. By your own logic, therefore, God could not reside in him.
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nope, being incarnate in the flesh allowed God to walk among sinners - God the Father, a spiritual entity can't be in sinners precense because He is perfect and Holy.
Bwaaaahahahahahahaha.
Really, Magus you crack me up.
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Bwaaaahahahahahahaha.
Really, Magus you crack me up.
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Magus said what he knows and what he think that is right , I really don`t see anything funny in his reply,I found his reply very informative, he only tried to explain his opinion and I think he deserved all our respect .


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Magus said what he knows and what he think that is right , I really don`t see anything funny in his reply,I found his reply very informative, he only tried to explain his opinion and I think he deserved all our respect .


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Bwaaaahahahahahahaha.
Really, Rima you crack me up.
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He said what he believes. He doesn't know it.

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I really don't see anything funny in his reply, I found his reply very informative, he only tried to explain his opinion and I think he deserved all our respect.
FYI, Magus believes all non-Christians get to burn in hell for eternity. Would that deserve our respect?
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FYI, Magus believes all non-Christians get to burn in hell for eternity. Would that deserve our respect? [/B]
nobody , would know who will and who will not burn in hell
nobody would know who will be punished and who will be rewarded ...
so I don`t really take anybodys statement seriously and I won`t be offended by that , let everyone believe in whatever he would like
you don`t believe in God , fine , I respect that
he believes in God , fine , I respect that too

I think magus tried very hard to explain his opinion , I found it very interesting

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Bwaaaahahahahahahaha.
Really, Rima you crack me up.
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it seems to me that you are very CRAKABLE , everything would crake you up
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what happend when Moses met God (Yehweh) on the mountain of Sinai ?did Moses actually meet Jesus ?

can anybody see God , and survive?
how many people saw Jesus and lived with him?
Moses probably saw an Angel of the Lord on Sinai, like he did at the burning bush. God spoke through the Angel.

Exd 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush [was] not consumed.


No, nobody can see God the Father and survive in a sinless body. His glory and majesty would be too overwhelming. You'd probably fall to your knees and have a heart attack.

Probably 1000s saw Jesus and lived among Him. But He was a human, which is the difference.
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......it seems to me that you are very CRAKABLE , everything would crake you up
Nope, as previously stated, just you and Magus so far.
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Eh? Magus, this makes no sense.

How could God take on human flesh, since human flesh itself is subject to the fall and therefore imperfect and corrupted by sin. For instance, it decays, is subject to disease, etc. Was Jesus immune to this? Or are you suggesting that Jesus's earthly body was composed of some different substance, not flesh at all; that the spiritual bit of God that came to this planet wore the Jesus form as some kind of armour against sin? (In which case Jesus was not in any true sense a human being and in no position to lecture other human beings on how to live. It also leaves unanswered the question of how exactly sin limits God's actions.) Doesn't the Bible say that Jesus was prey to the same temptations that afflict all of us? Therefore he was human. By your own logic, therefore, God could not reside in him.
Jesus was born sinless. He didn't inherit original sin from Adam's fall. He was born perfect. Every other human is corrupt and subject to imperfection because we inherited sin, Jesus, being God didn't. And yes, Jesus was tempted by sin, because He was human - the difference between Jesus and us, is - he never gave in to temptation - he turned from it and never sinned.
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Nope, as previously stated, just you and Magus so far.
Can't we ever discuss something civily without getting obnoxious and sarcastic remarks from the peanut gallery? I was sincerely trying to answer Rima - if you don't agree with what we have to say, thats fine - don't reply - your insulting and mocking comments do not add anything to the conversation.
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