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Old 02-25-2003, 12:32 PM   #1
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Default John the Baptist rose from the dead?!

People in Jesus' day were very susceptible to believe just about anything.

Mark 6:14 - People thought that John the Baptist had risen from the dead, and Herod thought that also. Herod said, “The man I
beheaded has been raised from the dead!”

So people were running around saying, "Holy shit, John the Baptist has risen from the dead!"

Obviously there could have been the same kind of excitement about Jesus too. People were running around saying, “Jesus has been raised from the dead!” And we all know that neither John the Baptist, nor Jesus, were raised from the dead.
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People in Jesus' day were very susceptible to believe just about anything.

Mark 6:14 - People thought that John the Baptist had risen from the dead, and Herod thought that also. Herod said, “The man I
beheaded has been raised from the dead!”

So people were running around saying, "Holy shit, John the Baptist has risen from the dead!"

Obviously there could have been the same kind of excitement about Jesus too. People were running around saying, “Jesus has been raised from the dead!” And we all know that neither John the Baptist, nor Jesus, were raised from the dead.
Actually that was Herod having just seen Jesus' ressurection, thinking that John the Baptist, who Herod just beheaded - is dwelling in Jesus' body to haunt him. Herod was actually seeing Jesus himself come back to life.

We all know that Jesus never was raised from the dead? How do we know this? Did the demons tell you?
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Actually that was Herod having just seen Jesus' ressurection, thinking that John the Baptist, who Herod just beheaded - is dwelling in Jesus' body to haunt him. Herod was actually seeing Jesus himself come back to life.

Actually, you're just plain flat wrong. This was in Mark 6. Jesus wasn't crucified until Mark 15; the resurrection is recounted in Mark 16.

Carrie raises a very good point - this passage may indicate that the people of the day already held superstitious belief that dead people might sometimes get up and walk around.
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Actually, you're just plain flat wrong. This was in Mark 6. Jesus wasn't crucified until Mark 15; the resurrection is recounted in Mark 16.
Well, darn it, that just proves the Bible is divinely inspired. Only God can see into the future, so the fact that Mark 6 knew ahead of time that Jesus would be resurrected in Mark 16, this shows conclusively that God is the author. Don't you see how these things work?
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Actually that was Herod having just seen Jesus' ressurection, thinking that John the Baptist, who Herod just beheaded - is dwelling in Jesus' body to haunt him. Herod was actually seeing Jesus himself come back to life.

Actually, you're just plain flat wrong. This was in Mark 6. Jesus wasn't crucified until Mark 15; the resurrection is recounted in Mark 16.

Carrie raises a very good point - this passage may indicate that the people of the day already held superstitious belief that dead people might sometimes get up and walk around.
Sorry my mistake, got it backwards. Herod had heard many things of Jesus' miracles and when Herod saw Jesus perform them, he thought it was the ghost of John the Baptist in Jesus.John was recently beheaded by Herod.
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To Magus55 :

Okay Mr. Smarty Pants, let's start off nice. I believed in the Bible as literal for 6 years, and lived the Christian life, so I know where you are coming from.

But how do YOU know that Herod had just seen Jesus' resurrection? What do you mean? How could Herod have seen Jesus' resurrection way back in Mark 6? Jesus hadn't even died on the cross yet at that point.

Obviously Herod thought that John had risen from the dead and was dwelling in Jesus' body. So that goes to show that Herod, and everyone else, believed silly things. They believed that not only could a person rise from the dead, but they could go into another person and take on their form.

And no, the demons ain't told me jack. A long time ago I tried to get them to talk to me through my Ouija board, but no one answered. And that's because demons don't exist, except in the imagination.

Go try to save all the Catholics who supposedly are taught things by demons. 1 Timothy 4:1-3 says that forbidding people to marry (like priests) is something taught by demons. You'll have the most luck converting Catholics (I would know) since they don't read the Bible much. But as for me, I've read the whole thing numerous times, but the more I read it, the more I doubted. I'm not going back to Christianity, so you're wasting your time with me, and probably with everyone on this whole site. As Matt 7:6 says, "Don't throw your pearls to pigs." Oink Oink. Get the hint? Jesus doesn't want you wasting your time with us. And you gotta obey the Word man.
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Did i ever dispute some people believe in superstition and pagan ideas? Mental disorders did exist back then /gasp.

But since over 500 people saw Jesus living after his crucifiction, i don't think they all suffered from delusions and histeria.
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But since over 500 people saw Jesus living after his crucifiction, i don't think they all suffered from delusions and histeria. [/B]
Prove it.
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Magus55 is the perfect example of typical fundie debate techniques.

Make assertion, watch said assertion get torn to shreds, enter new room/thread/website. Repeat assertion.

Magus55 we tackled this one in another thread (actually a few) remember?
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Prove it.
Can't prove it to you since you claim the eyewitness testimony of the Bible is false.

And another tidbit to prove Jesus did in fact exist.

Archaeologists found the supposed tomb of Jesus' brother with an inscription talking about James and Jesus.

So Jesus did in fact exist unless we are gonna dispute the accuracy of archaeology now.
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