River

some interesting and rather profound links on the nature and modus operandi of Paul. However, I can not confirm the veracity of these claims. ......but these sites are definitely worth taking a look.[ Some of the information here is pro-shia, so I am not very familiar with it.]


http://www.taliyah.org/modules.php?n...rder=0&thold=0 "Worthless Shepherd"




http://www.taliyah.org/pdfs/paul.pdf "Paul is the Anti-Christ"

River

The author of the following article , Isa Adam Naziri was a Jewish scholar who eventually converted to Islam. This is what he has to say about Al-Masih ad-Dajjal ( the Dark Messiah).



Identifying the AntiChrist




"So the Ummah (Islamic community) must ask itself, who is there among us who is blind in the right eye, who "walks with one sandal" as "the Shaiytan walks with one sandal" as Muhammad warned us? Who is there who is taking on the identical role of Sha'ul Ha'Tarsu in his infiltration of the P'rushim? Who, in so doing, has turned Muslims against one another, "cutting each others throats?" Who has risen from the East of the Hijaz, whereas Muhammad said the Sun will Rise in the West? Who claims to be from a large family, yet only his "mother" is alive with him, whilst all of his supposed "large family" are claimed to have died when he was 6 or younger? Who emerged when claiming to be between 30 and 40 years of age? Who was shot 31 times with high velocity rifle rounds, and lives on to this day? Who did the Pentagon lie and say he had many children which Bin Ladin intermarried with, whilst the Al-Qa'ida network declared that there was no intermarriage between any children of this individual and `Usama Bin Ladin? Who did the Antichrist United States have in their sites when they began their so-called "War on Terrorism" but allowed him to climb into his pickup truck and drive away due to lack of authorization? Who survived the attack on Afghani civilians and the virtual destruction of the modern day Pharisee sect that he created? Who wears a black turban, claiming to be a descendant of Muhammad, while no one has any record of his family's ancestry? Who unraveled a black banner that Muhammad himself used in war, in order for this individual to falsely align himself with prophecies of the coming "Imam Al-Mahdi" (The Rightly Guided Leader), who is the Elijah prophesied in the Book of Malachi, and even in the canonical Gospels when Jesus said that Elijah had come (archetypally as John the Baptist), but that on the other hand Elijah was still to come in the future (archetypally as Imam Al-Mahdi)? Whose followers are now actually claiming that he is the Mahdi?

There is only one such individual who fits the profile. So identifying Paul as the Antichrist - and realizing that he did not die, but was bound in the underworld of Sheol, beneath a monastery of his One World Religion of Christianity - is important, but this does not yet explain to you who this individual was in many manifestations before "Paul," or his true nature and the history of his ancestors. Neither does it explain the plot that he has hatched today and what his plans are in this very generation. These are things which will soon be revealed to you.

"You (Satan) may entice them with your voice, and mobilize all your forces and all your men against them, and share in their money and children, and promise them. Anything Iblis (the Devil) promises is no more than an illusion. Al-Qur'an, Sura 17:64

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You have been given a starting point, not an ending point. This book is not merely to be read, it is to be lived. These are not the printed words of a scholar or professor. These are not theoretical musings for one to ponder. This is not being written for fame or for glory. This is being written to awaken the true believers to the Reality of the Antichrist, so that in realizing this you will not remain passive, nor in fear of what is at hand. Instead it is intended that you leave behind the hypnotic lies of the modern day Babylon system, and join with us to fight against this Imposter and wipe him from the face of the Earth once and for all."

Jimmy Davies

[QUOTE]Originally posted by River
[B]The author of the following article , Isa Adam Naziri was a Jewish scholar who eventually converted to Islam. This is what he has to say about Al-Masih ad-Dajjal ( the Dark Messiah).



Identifying the AntiChrist



Hi River. Not sure where you are going with this post. How can this be the truth about Paul, if all religion is false? This is just more superstition and reveals nothing about the true character of Paul. If by atheist perceptions, Paul was just a guy had some wild superstitous notions, what does it matter if some other theistically deluded person considered him the anti-christ?

I see no reason to trash the virtue of the Bible courtesy of competing theology. It's just mean-spirited, and it's like asking the Tooth Fairy if Santa Claus is real.

It's one thing to dismiss all religion as hooey, and another to craft elaborate condemnations based on the malarkey of other religions.

River

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jimmy Davies
[B]
All religions are false, you say. That would be difficult for you to prove.

I did not trash the virtue of the Bible. I believe in Jesus and James....

Paul, on the other hand is responsible for dividing and fragmenting Christianity and possibly Islam.

SLD

River, in all your posts, you are doing nothing but proselytizing for islam. Let me blunt.

Islam is bunk.

Christianity is Bunk.

Religion is Bunk.

Get over it.

SLD

Doctor X

Good to see you back, River.

Can you respond to my last post in your Thread?

Thanks!

--J.D.

River

You appear to be endorsing the anarchic concept of "bunk is bunk".

Secondly, Islam is naturally the ultimate critique against Christianity and bolsters the " Biblical Criticism and History" department considerably. I am not proselytizing....I am offering my share of Biblical Criticism.

River

Yes its good to see you as well........hmm I really wanted to retire that thread and move on to other topics but I'll try my best to address it (soon).

River

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jimmy Davies
[B]


I believe you only read a fragment of the thread and became overwhelmed by it. However, the nature and true character of Paul has been addressed here

http://www.taliyah.org/pdfs/paul.pdf

Jimmy Davies

Here's what isn't difficult for me to prove:
2 Timothy 3:16.: All Scipture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

This means all scripture, not just the scripture River likes. But then Paul wrote this letter to Timothy so it's just a bunch of Anti-Christ bullcrap, right?

And you do not believe in Jesus and James. Christ implored the Christian to love and to not judge, that this was his father's job. You apparently feel adequaltely equipped to do the job for him, and feel no compulsion to love, which is your foremost duty as a Christian.

How POWERFUL you must feel to pick and choose whatever resonates in your heart to accept or reject, deciding courtesy of your own wisdom what will be truth and what will be evil, dividing and fragmenting.

If you do not believe all religions false, why are you posting on an Infidel board. It certainly can't be to good news us. After all, you are not bound to this duty set down by Christ, you can accept or reject it and craft whatever justification suits your heart,. Remember, this is the gospel according to River. Your word is law.