FRDB Archives

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.


Go Back   FRDB Archives > Archives > IIDB ARCHIVE: 200X-2003, PD 2007 > IIDB Philosophical Forums (PRIOR TO JUN-2003)
Welcome, Peter Kirby.
You last visited: Today at 05:55 AM

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-18-2003, 04:32 AM   #1
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Finland
Posts: 129
Default Greek Myths and the Beginning and the End of the World

So, I was thinking about things a few days ago.

Yes, I know it can be dangerous to your health.

I was thinking, "Why have I never heard about Greek myths that tell how the universe began or how it will end?" After all, many religions have imaginative stories describing these events (Christianity, Norse mythology, Egyptian mythology, etc). Have the Greek versions of these events just avoided me or didn't they have any beginning/end myths?
BigBadShrubbery is offline  
Old 06-18-2003, 08:28 AM   #2
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Boxing ring of HaShem, Jesus and Allah
Posts: 1,945
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by BigBadShrubbery
I was thinking, "Why have I never heard about Greek myths that tell how the universe began or how it will end?"
Are you asking why you haven't heard of the Greek myths in particular (meaning that you have heard of others such as Mayan or Egyptian)? Or are you asking why you haven't heard of Greek myths as an exemplar of the general question of why you haven't heard of non-Abrahamic creation myths?

If the latter, then it's because, in our day and age, there's a unanimous agreement that non-Abrahamic creation myths are not worth considering. This sort of agreement still hasn't reached out to Genesis and Co.
emotional is offline  
Old 06-18-2003, 08:42 AM   #3
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Posts: 379
Default

The sad part is most cannot even identify that there are two seperate creation Myths in Genesis. I haven't heard any creation or armageddon myths from the Greeks either. Maybe they were just happy with their current life. All end of the world myths need a sense of urgency to be effective. As in, the end of the world will happen in your generation.
gsx1138 is offline  
Old 06-18-2003, 08:56 AM   #4
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Finland
Posts: 129
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by emotional
Are you asking why you haven't heard of the Greek myths in particular (meaning that you have heard of others such as Mayan or Egyptian)?
Yes. Exactly.
BigBadShrubbery is offline  
Old 06-18-2003, 02:20 PM   #5
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,767
Default

Greek creation myths certainly do exist, and are pretty well known to those with an interest in Greek mythology. See Hesiod's Theogony for one example. Orphic myths also exist, which are somewhat different and idiosyncratic. Apocalyptic myths are pretty rare if not non-existent. In Greek mythology, the gods did not create the universe, but exist as part of it, so neither do they destroy the universe.

By the way, have you tried typing "Greek creation myths" into google?
muon is offline  
Old 06-19-2003, 03:07 AM   #6
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Finland
Posts: 129
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by oser
By the way, have you tried typing "Greek creation myths" into google?
Damn I'm stupid!
BigBadShrubbery is offline  
Old 06-19-2003, 06:11 AM   #7
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Boxing ring of HaShem, Jesus and Allah
Posts: 1,945
Default

What puzzles me is why people think Greek creationism (or any other non-Abrahamic story) is not fit to challenge evolution like the Hebrew creation story is. Answers in Hesiod anyone? It is obvious that seemingly bad design is the result of Kronos coughing while shaping his creatures.
emotional is offline  
Old 06-24-2003, 11:26 PM   #8
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Singapore
Posts: 2,875
Default

Try reading Ovid's Metamorphoses. It's basically got the Roman rip-off of Enuma Elish. I can't remember where the Greek version of it is, but look for Deukalion/Deucalion (Noah).

Joel
Celsus is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:21 PM.

Top

This custom BB emulates vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.