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Old 10-10-2002, 06:32 PM   #1
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Exclamation Darwinism is root of terrorism

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<a href="http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/darwinism_materialism.html#up" target="_blank">http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/darwinism_materialism.html#up</a>

Harun yayaha explains in detail that apparently the theory of evolution directly leads to terrorism.

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Darwin legitimized violence by claiming that humans are, in essence, animals struggling for life
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The Indian anthropologist Lalita Vidyarthi explains how Darwin's theory of evolution imposed racism on the social sciences:

His (Darwin's) theory of the survival of the fittest was warmly welcomed by the social scientists of the day, and they believed mankind had achieved various levels of evolution culminating in the white man's civilization. By the second half of the nineteenth century racism was accepted as fact by the vast majority of Western scientists.
and where does it say that Darwinism is responsible for racism? Also the title of the book is Racism: science and pseudoscience. but I bet Harun would not know what pseudoscience is.

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Darwinism also defines an 'ethical understanding' and 'method' that could influence various world views. The fundamental concept behind this understanding and method is 'fighting those who are not one of us


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Actually, when Darwinism is taken away, no philosophy of 'conflict' remains
So I guess all those wars before Darwin was ... um...er... well undarwinian at any rate, yes?

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The three monotheistic religions that most people in the world believe in, Islam, Christianity and Judaism, all oppose violence. All three religions wish to bring peace and harmony to the world, and oppose innocent people being killed and suffering cruelty and torture. Conflict and violence violate the morality that God has set out for man, and are abnormal and undesired concepts.
HA,HA, HA!!

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For this reason, if some people commit terrorism using the concepts and symbols of Islam, Christianity and Judaism in the name of those religions, you can be sure that those people are not Muslims, Christians or Jews. They are in fact Social Darwinists. They hide under a cloak of religion, but they are not genuine believers. Even if they claim to be serving religion, they are actually enemies of religion and believers. That is because they are ruthlessly committing a crime that religion forbids, and in such a way as to blacken religion in peoples' eyes.

For this reason, the root of the terrorism that plagues our world is not in any of the monotheistic religions, but is in atheism, and the expression of atheism in our times: 'Darwinism' and 'materialism.'
anyone feels like publicly challenging this cretin to a debate?
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Old 10-10-2002, 06:44 PM   #2
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"Thank goodness humans are only animals! Now I feel much better plowing this plane into a building."
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Old 10-10-2002, 07:14 PM   #3
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I dunno whether or not he's noticed, but last I checked, at the moment the most prominent terrorists seem to be Muslim fundamentalists.

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The three monotheistic religions that most people in the world believe in, Islam, Christianity and Judaism, all oppose violence. All three religions wish to bring peace and harmony to the world, and oppose innocent people being killed and suffering cruelty and torture. Conflict and violence violate the morality that God has set out for man, and are abnormal and undesired concepts.
Someday, someone is gonna have to tell this guy about a little place called "The Middle East"

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Yes. Tell Harun Yahya about the Middle East.

Im sure he's never heard of it.
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Old 10-11-2002, 05:34 AM   #5
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<strong>Yes. Tell Harun Yahya about the Middle East.

Im sure he's never heard of it.</strong>
He's certainly talking like he's never heard anything about it, at any rate.

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Old 10-11-2002, 02:39 PM   #6
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Correct me if im wrong (I usually am) but didnt Mohammed start out all nicey-nicey on his soap-box then when noone listened he got mad and started butchering the whole lot of them? Then he started a rampage that went through N. Africa and the middle east. Bin laden and other so-called radical, fanatical Muslims including Palestinian homicide bombers, are only taking the message of the Qu’ran seriously when it extols the virtues of war against the infidel—hence they are fundamentalist in the strict sense. Let’s look at some passages: “Make war on the unbeliever and deal sternly with them” (Sura 66, “Prohibition” Verse 9), also Sura 2: verse 191 says “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places where they drove you out, for persecution ( by Israel or US) is worse than slaughter (by terrorists). Here is the religious leader of the Palestinian police force speaking to his soldiers in 1996 “Our blessings to you, who fight at the gates of the enemy and knock on heaven’s door with his skull in your hands.”
Oh, dear, one Muslim friend told me, you cannot even discuss the Qu’ran if you cannot speak Arabic because it’s beauty (!!) and true meaning can only be understood in that language. To which I said “so you put your trust in a god that not only sows strife, but disunity and confusion right in the original document?” For all of the Christian abuses throughout history you will not find any support for them in the New Testament.
True Islam should stand up and show itself for the warmongering ideology it really is.
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Correct me if im wrong (I usually am) but didnt Mohammed start out all nicey-nicey on his soap-box then when noone listened he got mad and started butchering the whole lot of them?
&lt;madmardigan&gt;"Holy Spanish Inquisition, Batman!"&lt;/madmardigan&gt;

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[insert random homicidal Qur'an surahs]
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<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=NUM%2B31%3A17-18&showfn=on&showxref=on&language=english&version= KJV&x=13&y=9" target="_blank">Numbers 31:17-18</a>

Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
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<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&version=NIV&passage=1+sam+1 5:2-3" target="_blank">1 Samuel 15:2-3</a>

This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' "


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Here is the religious leader of the Palestinian police force speaking to his soldiers in 1996 “Our blessings to you, who fight at the gates of the enemy and knock on heaven’s door with his skull in your hands.”
*Remembers Northern Ireland and abortion clinic bombings*

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Oh, dear, one Muslim friend told me, you cannot even discuss the Qu’ran if you cannot speak Arabic because it’s beauty (!!) and true meaning can only be understood in that language. To which I said “so you put your trust in a god that not only sows strife, but disunity and confusion right in the original document?”
*Remembers Christians saying "you've gotta check the original Hebrew for the real meaning" about fifty gazillion times*

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For all of the Christian abuses throughout history you will not find any support for them in the New Testament.
Actually, it depends on who's looking. A Christian psychopath will see in Jesus' statement that "I have come not to bring peace, but a sword" a command to go forth and kill the nonbelievers. A Muslim psychopath will find similar justification. A sane Christian will rationalize away the nasty parts of their holy book, as will a sane Muslim.

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True Islam should stand up and show itself for the warmongering ideology it really is.
Is True Islam™ as easy to discern from False Islam™ as True Christianity™ is from False Christianity™? And which versions of both are true or false?

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For balance, I'll post on behalf of our favorite Moonie:

"The U.S. (Them) is responsible (Vietnam) for all terrorism (Stalin) in the world (Castro)."

"In short,

"Kissingerdidit!!!"

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<strong>For all of the Christian abuses throughout history you will not find any support for them in the New Testament.</strong>
Unfortunately, when you buy a New Testament, most of the time it comes as a package deal with this "Old Testament" attached, and if one can't find a justification for violence in the New, the Old one is more than willing to oblige.

"As a man can drink water from any side of a full tank, so the skilled theologian can wrest from any scripture that which will serve his purpose."
--- The Bhagavad Gita

I could dig out a list of supportive OT biblical quotes, but you've probably heard them all before anyways.

This thread is deviating quickly from E/C, not that I am helping. I think it might end up in Misc. Religious Discussions...

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<strong>Yes. Tell Harun Yahya about the Middle East.

Im sure he's never heard of it.</strong>
Sorry, but in his website he has got all his answers ready. The muslims who are doing this are not real muslims. They are actually Darwinists, who are using the cloak of Islam to further their evilutionist plans.
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