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Vitalij · 04-23-2003, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by Seeker630
Why did "God" create humans in the 1st place? What was the point? Or any other life for that matter? (assuming here the creationist view of things)

The man is a biomachine made to grow out of ordinary Consciousness the Consciousness of The Creator of Universes or galactic fuel. Similarly to spawn of fishes, millions and millions of humans are spiritually dying without making it to what they are destined to be.

"Earth is the planet of biorobots" - the most burning for the Mankind issue is considered by local moderators "of little philosophical importance and/or topics moved from other forums due to a lack of serious content (from description of ~~Elsewhere~~ section were my posts are pedantically removed)"!!! But this is what really answers your question.

Vitalij
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wade-w · 04-23-2003, 12:33 AM

Vitalij:

If you have a complaint about the moderation of this board, the appropriate place to present it is in the Bugs, Problems, Complaints, Suggestions & Questions forum, not in some random thread. Any more comments in this forum about were your threads wind up will be edited.

Vitalij · 04-23-2003, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by wade-w
Vitalij:
If you have a complaint about the moderation of this board, the appropriate place to present it is in the Bugs, Problems, Complaints, Suggestions & Questions forum, not in some random thread. Any more comments in this forum about were your threads wind up will be edited.

As you can see, the answer to the question above in the form of one of my previous posts is missing. It is missing because one of the moderators moved it. I do not really have time to waste on complaints, I would rather prefer that the moderators of all the Internet forums appeal to their conscience. That would really help many people.
Vitalij
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Seeker630 · 04-23-2003, 06:13 AM

for Magus:

You keep saying this "God" of yours loves to create and wants everyone to share his gifts---whatever they are.

You know this exactly how? And don't quote the Bible to me--I have no belief that it is the word of any supernatural being.

Quite frankly, I find absurd the whole notion that a being exists somewhere, anywhere, capable of bringing the universe into existence, deliberately manufacturing flawed humans, and then holding them responsible for his own handiwork.

And into the bargain, this all loving all knowing all powerful, perfect being, after he realizes that he's made a mess of it (for the second time), decides that his humans need to be somehow "saved" from himself, and so concocts a bizzarre plot wherein he comes to earth two thousand years ago in human form, arranges his own public suicide, and then declares that anyone who does not believe this ridiculous story is condemned to eternal torment.

I've never quite figured out how you can torture or torment a dead person. How does one punish a soul? (whatever that is).

Vitalij · 04-23-2003, 06:47 AM

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... don't quote the Bible to me--I have no belief that it is the word of any supernatural being....

BIBLE - THE ROTTEN FOUNDATION OF FALSE RELIGIONS
You may find this thread very informative. Enjoy!

Vitalij
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Illithid · 04-23-2003, 10:01 PM

Vitalij's posts should be moved to "humor"... because we have no "drug-induced multicolored incoherencies" forum.

I still say it's all the "omni-" attributes that get Christian apologists in hot water. If God weren't described as all-knowing and all-powerful (like Madame Blavatka the Gypsy fortune-teller), there'd be fewer logical contradictions to attack.

"God made us, and loves us, and He's made an okay universe, and He's doing the best He can, but He didn't know how it would all turn out when He made it".

Biff the unclean · 04-23-2003, 10:36 PM

Which still leaves you with the question "God? What God?"

Vitalij · 04-23-2003, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Illithid
Vitalij's posts should be moved to "humor"...

You mean sepulchral humor?

Vitalij
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Hubble head · 04-28-2003, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by Opus36
Ok I have an idea on why "God" created humans: I'll take it from the Catholic Churches perspective.

God needs things, like money. So he created man and gave him the ability to reporduce. More people, more money. So then there were millions of humans. Now he needed a way to collect that is why he created the church. It gave him a central location for all the humans to bring their money to him. But he still wasn't bring in enough, he has debts. If some one doesn't pay the gas bill, they will shut the sun off. That is when he created Bingo.

I think you're on to something. This could explain why gahd gave us T.V. and Benny Hinn too.

Hubble head · 04-28-2003, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Biff the unclean
Which still leaves you with the question "God? What God?"

I am still back at the post about some idiot dying for my sins so he could....? Or so I could do/be...? And why was it not that way before he came along and set up his suicide? I cannot make a connection no matrter how many times this is explained to me.

It must torture ones' mind to confuse it with the likes of some guy dying for some illogical reason for hopes that only oppress your mind further into a black hole of nonsensical propositions and conclusions.

And then along comes Islam. :banghead::banghead:

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04-23-2003, 12:33 AM	#52
wade-w Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Silver City, New Mexico Posts: 1,872	Vitalij: If you have a complaint about the moderation of this board, the appropriate place to present it is in the Bugs, Problems, Complaints, Suggestions & Questions forum, not in some random thread. Any more comments in this forum about were your threads wind up will be edited.

04-23-2003, 06:13 AM	#54
Seeker630 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: North America Posts: 1,624	for Magus: You keep saying this "God" of yours loves to create and wants everyone to share his gifts---whatever they are. You know this exactly how? And don't quote the Bible to me--I have no belief that it is the word of any supernatural being. Quite frankly, I find absurd the whole notion that a being exists somewhere, anywhere, capable of bringing the universe into existence, deliberately manufacturing flawed humans, and then holding them responsible for his own handiwork. And into the bargain, this all loving all knowing all powerful, perfect being, after he realizes that he's made a mess of it (for the second time), decides that his humans need to be somehow "saved" from himself, and so concocts a bizzarre plot wherein he comes to earth two thousand years ago in human form, arranges his own public suicide, and then declares that anyone who does not believe this ridiculous story is condemned to eternal torment. I've never quite figured out how you can torture or torment a dead person. How does one punish a soul? (whatever that is).

04-23-2003, 10:01 PM	#56
Illithid Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: BF, Texas Posts: 161	Vitalij's posts should be moved to "humor"... because we have no "drug-induced multicolored incoherencies" forum. I still say it's all the "omni-" attributes that get Christian apologists in hot water. If God weren't described as all-knowing and all-powerful (like Madame Blavatka the Gypsy fortune-teller), there'd be fewer logical contradictions to attack. "God made us, and loves us, and He's made an okay universe, and He's doing the best He can, but He didn't know how it would all turn out when He made it".

04-23-2003, 10:36 PM	#57
Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	Which still leaves you with the question "God? What God?"

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