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Old 04-03-2003, 03:17 AM   #1
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I just want you to know that the most meaningful experience one can have is merging with the light. Merging with love itself. To see just what God is. I too have been known for my "unbelief" days. I am not saying to join a church. Just join your intellect with possibilities. I just challenge anyone here to go to the wilderness for a week only with water and the drink called Soma. Have faith that you will experience what I like to call, reality. No matter what you beleive. I have taken atheists with me before to the wilds and they come back believers. Jesus is the way, the truth and the light for me. How about you?
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1. SOMA (Hindu plant-god). Soma is also Greek for "body".
2. Amrita (Buddhist Magical Sacrament).
3. Ambrosia (Greek, "Food of the Gods").
4. The Holy Grail (note the Grail-like shape of the upturned muscaria mushroom; "Vessel containing the blood of the God").
5. Fruit of the Tree of life: Fruit of the Tree = the mushroom; the main body (mycellium) growing underground in a Symbiotic relationship with the Pine tree.
6. The Golden Fleece
7. The Fountain of Youth: Ponce De' Leon is likely to have unknowingly kicked over the very thing for which he was searching; the red muscaria grows under Longleaf Pine in northern Florida in December.
8. Haoma: Islamic Sacrament.
9. Manna: There are two kinds in the Bible; see John ch. 6 to 14. Manna means "mushroom".
10. Bread of Life: Yes, it's the "Loaf of Bliss".
11. Fountain of Living Waters: Its alive, 90% water, and shaped like a fountain.
12. Hidden Manna: See Rev. 2:17
13. The Cosmic Egg, The Easter Egg (What are we really mimicking at Easter? The mushroom hunt, OF COURSE).
14. The Prima Materia/Philosophers stone: The secret substance of the Alchemists (Get Clark Heinrich's book "Strange Fruit" for this one; fascinating!).
15. Soma: The Hindu plant God and elixir of immortality.
16. The Flesh of the God: The mushroom is very flesh-like and is depicted so.
17. The Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge/Life.
18. The Flesh of Jesus, and other Gods (Take and eat. This is my "body" [Greek, "SOMA"]).
19. The Hammer of Thor: The shape is obvious. Thor throws his mushroom-shaped hammer to the ground in a bolt of lightning and a mighty thunderous CRACK. Lightning is the mythical creator of the mushroom.
20. The Small White Stone: The infant state of the mushroom resembles a small white stone.
21. The Elixir of Immortality: The churning-of-the-milky-ocean myth describes this in a phenomenal way.
22. The Feathered Serpent: From its first egg-state to its snake-looking second state, then shedding its universal veil (shedding its skin) and finally upturning its cap (gills resembling feathers). The feathered serpent is cosmopolitan in its symbology.
23. The Phoenix: From the ashes (spores) the egg appears. Then comes the upturned cap resembling a gold and red colored bird (the gills as feathers). Then the heat (sun) burns the mushroom and it dissolves, once again leaving only ashes (spores), and finally repeating the whole cycle.
23. Ankh: Waters and life, or the waters of life in Egypt.
24. Rudra: The Hindu red god of the forest.
25. Djed: The phallus or pillar of Osiris.
26. The One Eyed Howler: The round eye shape which represents the vision of the universe.
27. The Eye of Horus: (Djed-Eye) Sound familiar?
28. The World Tree: The mushroom is thought to be the creator of the world, in many cultures.
29. Celestial Food: The food of the Gods in the Egyptian "Book of the dead".
30. Aten: The Egyptian winged-disc.
31. Fly Agaric: Although "Fly" is commonly thought of in association with the "House-fly", there is also evidence that it refers to the act of "flying", as in taking spiritual flight
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Old 04-03-2003, 03:38 AM   #3
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Jesus is the way, the truth and the light for me. How about you?
Did you know that the Bible quote is actually: "Jesus is the way, the truth and the life" (but the same gospel does say he is the light of the world, in another place).

Anyway, it surprises me that you'd say that, then post a second post which says very little about Jesus and is full of things that come from other religions. It sounds like a mysticism based on a synthesis of various religions is actually 'the way, the truth and the light' to you.

What's in 'SOMA'? Is it a drug that you drink?

Why did you entitle your post 'atheism sucks'? Did you have some bad experiences with atheism?

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It would appear as though the basis for your enlightenment involves the assistance of fungi. If being stoned of your gourd floats your boat, more power to you. I just think your liver will thank you if you laid off now and again....
Perhaps this is just my tiny, limited, empirical, atheist brain being pedantic again, but I fail to see the connection between the abundance of fungal references throughout world religions has to do with your being a relapsed atheist.
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I just want you to know that the most meaningful experience one can have is merging with the light. Merging with love itself. To see just what God is.


In truth, rubbercok3000, I've tried meditation, chanting, dancing and trance music in order to reach an "altered state of consciousness" and merge with God (I haven't tried drugs, though, because I take physicians' word for it that they're harmful). None of the methods I tried got me on the royal road to Union with the Godhead. I don't know what the reason for this is. One possibility is that something is wrong with me; in that case I'll have to wait for death, for leaving the body, in order to be oned with God. Another possibility is that Union with the Godhead is a brain-based phenomenon, and I simply haven't managed to switch my brain to an altered state.

Power be to you in seeking this Beatific Bliss, but I'll stick to the seen, sensed world which I so love -- most holy Nature.

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I am not saying to join a church. Just join your intellect with possibilities. I just challenge anyone here to go to the wilderness for a week only with water and the drink called Soma.


But if it's drugs that's making you experience things, why do you call it "reality"? Reality is what you see and sense when you're sober. What you're describing is nothing short of a drunken state.

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Have faith that you will experience what I like to call, reality.


Reality is this world. This life. This earth and these skies. See to it lest you trade the reality of this life for a pottage of drunken hallucinations or vain promises of afterlife reward.

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Jesus is the way, the truth and the light for me. How about you?
Guru Jesus may have had some wise teachings, and at any rate was misunderstood. But as for me, my only guru is mental sobriety and rational thought, and this is the guru whom my emotions follow.
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I just want you to know that the most meaningful experience one can have is merging with the light. Merging with love itself.
You've had this meaningful experience merging with "love itself", and all you can do is start a topic called:

Athiesm sucks

Your love of the halfling's leaf has clearly clouded your mind.
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I just want you to know that the most meaningful experience one can have is merging with the light. Merging with love itself. To see just what God is. I too have been known for my "unbelief" days. I am not saying to join a church. Just join your intellect with possibilities. I just challenge anyone here to go to the wilderness for a week only with water and the drink called Soma. Have faith that you will experience what I like to call, reality. No matter what you beleive. I have taken atheists with me before to the wilds and they come back believers. Jesus is the way, the truth and the light for me. How about you?
Mergin with light! merging with ove itself! hmmm... interesting terms! I wonder if you can elaborate!
those subjective expriences that you talk about, are you able to objectively prove (prove to yourself more than anyone else) that they were illusions of the mind. I hope you did any reading about human psychology and I hope you've come to realize how much the human brain is suggestible. I wonder if you can be sure that what you felt isn't outside your mind.

read about Hypnosis man, and only then you know how your mind can make your body live a whole spectrum of different experiences that has no basis out side the limits of your neural systemn.
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If i recall correctly, this 'soma' you mention was in a book called a brave new world. It was basically a drug much like extasy that kept people in line. Have you read the book? most definatly not a state of mind i'd like to be in. Mindless drones running about. The free-sex thing wouldn't be bad though. Anyway, what was the point of this thread? i seem to have missed it.
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I haven't tried drugs, though, because I take physicians' word for it that they're harmful)
You are mistaking the Amanita Muscaria mushroom for both being illegal and harmful. It is not either one. All I am saying is that just ONE time go out to the mountains alone sometime and hike hard and strong. Just have a little faith and I guarantee you something life changing could happen!!!! I am just saying that being an atheist stops your search. In terms of mysticism of course. Sure the experience is considered "subjective" but what isnt?
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If i recall correctly, this 'soma' you mention was in a book called a brave new world. It was basically a drug much like extasy that kept people in line.
That is one mans interpretation of the Soma.
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