Answerer

Yeah, I agree. I just can't wait to see the 'entertainment'.

-RRH-

Really, I don't see:

as being too strongly supporting the Big Bang theory. It strikes me more as reminiscent of:


I could just as easily use:

to make it look like the Qur'an supports the geocentric model of the solar system, because it makes no distinction between the sun's and the moon's orbits.

But that is not my point. My point is that none of the examples you showed me demonstrate a clear understanding of the scientific principles you claim they demonstrate. Now, if you showed me where in the Qur'an it says,

then maybe I would be impressed.

River

-RRH


You have to look at the big picture. First or all I dont' know why you are comparing "Firmaments of water" to the Quranic Big Bang. The Quran states that the Universe was made from gas at its period of infancy. A Fusion of heaven and earth were separated. I don't see modern science explaining the Big Bang any better than the Quran. Both narratives are more or less equal. The "Firmaments of water" that you are inadvertently alluding to is situated near the "Throne of G-d " and is quite separate from Big Bang. Also you must realize that you are dealing with a classical Arabic text, that is highly specific and loses some meaning in the translation. I have seen some of the Arabic, and I will assure you that it is not some "vague nebulous" references that you find in other texts. The Big Bang precedes life from water. I hope you don't stumble upon sequences.

Secondly the Quran is a very exact, concise document..It may not directly state whether we go by a heliocentric, or geocentric model...which isnt actually too big of a deal considering the fact that the center really depends from where you consider the reference point relative to periphery. However, whatever the Quran does include is consistent with modern science. Philosophically speaking we are using the Anthro-centric model.

-RRH-

And I don't know how you get "Big Bang" out of a reference to Al Musawwir seperating the heavens from the earth. Sure, it doesn't say whether there's a firmament to keep them apart, but it still sounds more like Genesis than it sounds like "Big Bang."

From 41:11? It sounds like the sky was made from gas, but it doesn't say what anything else is made of. Maybe it's a poor translation. If you can find a discussion of the translation which supports the view that anything other than the sky was made from gas, it'll strengthen your point.

I haven't seen the Quran explain the big bang at all.

If the solar system were geocentric, I think you would be trumpeting 21:33 as one of your scientific verses. And it would be just as applicable.

The Quran may be exact about some things, but your attempts to turn it into a scientific text are making it very nebulous.